Quantifying Existence of a Trend?

Joeydisco

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Hi,

What do you consider to be the best way of quantifying the existence of a trend?

E.g. Price above 200 day MA and ADX above 30 would perhaps be a simple way of doing so.

I think the hardest part of designing a robust trend following system is identifying the trends in the first place.

Thanks.
 
For me a market on any time frame is either classically trending, generally trending or classically ranging. I refer particularly to overall price action (opa) - fractal peak/valley analysis as a means of identifying these conditions, ie

Classic Trend - a progression of fractal HH's and HL's - uptrend, fractal LL's and LH's - downtrend
General trend - a progression of the above with a few H's and L's thrown in as price deviates from the classical opa trend, this general opa trend present when price stays above/below an ma (s) of choice
Classic Range - A seemingly random set of H's and L's, HH's and LL's within 2 distinct range extremes, - ie consolidation/congestion and this may follow trending conditions when the market is undecided about next real direction.

It is important to know the opa conditions on each t/f of interest and whether they are co-existant or contra each other in order to act only in the highest probability circumstances if considering a 'with trend' set-up entry.

G/L

Hi,

What do you consider to be the best way of quantifying the existence of a trend?

E.g. Price above 200 day MA and ADX above 30 would perhaps be a simple way of doing so.

I think the hardest part of designing a robust trend following system is identifying the trends in the first place.

Thanks.
 
For me a market on any time frame is either classically trending, generally trending or classically ranging. I refer particularly to overall price action (opa) - fractal peak/valley analysis as a means of identifying these conditions, ie

Classic Trend - a progression of fractal HH's and HL's - uptrend, fractal LL's and LH's - downtrend
General trend - a progression of the above with a few H's and L's thrown in as price deviates from the classical opa trend, this general opa trend present when price stays above/below an ma (s) of choice
Classic Range - A seemingly random set of H's and L's, HH's and LL's within 2 distinct range extremes, - ie consolidation/congestion and this may follow trending conditions when the market is undecided about next real direction.

It is important to know the opa conditions on each t/f of interest and whether they are co-existant or contra each other in order to act only in the highest probability circumstances if considering a 'with trend' set-up entry.

G/L

Well put. I could have not done better.(y)
 
Hi,

What do you consider to be the best way of quantifying the existence of a trend?


One way of achieving trend recognition is to draw two diagonal lines onto your monitor/screen. Take one from the bottom left to the top right, and the other from the top left to the bottom right.

The monitor/screen can be used on any timeframe.
 
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