Build Neural Network Indicator in MT4 using Neuroshell

tovim · Aug 4, 2012, 6:41pm

Hi Arryex,

Do you have any experience with NeuroSolutions? It looks as it has more features and more advanced than Neuroshell.I am going to try CANFIS network I wonder if that network available in free demo version?

arryex · Aug 5, 2012, 1:44am

To Maariuszn,
I do not check the benefit one of them, you can use both normalization and standardization choose which one give better result.

To Tovim,
Neurosolutions give me a good impression for many options on NN configuration, but after testing for me not giving a better result. Concerning CANFIS, Neurosolutions suggested only use maximum 5 inputs then I am stuck with my 17 inputs, I use version 5 not sure in version 6.

The error message "Due to exponential relationship between the number of input columns and the number of input processing elements, it is recommended that this model be limited to data sets that have 5 or less inputs", if I still continue with my 14 inputs the builder is not responding.
Probably Neurosolutions good for students...

Krzysiaczek99 · Aug 8, 2012, 9:27am

Designing a FOREX Trading System using SOFM and SVM - Peltarion Forums

tovim · Aug 8, 2012, 11:12am

Interesting comment from Peltarion Team '' SOMs and SVMs only work on static algorithms'' so what types of NN and SVM algos work for continous time series?

Krzysiaczek99 · Aug 8, 2012, 1:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovim

Interesting comment from Peltarion Team '' SOMs and SVMs only work on static algorithms'' so what types of NN and SVM algos work for continous time series?

Well theories are different about it. Thanks to our Chinese brother we have this
collection of papers which are researching this a bit

/trunk/papers/trading/ - zenithlib - library everywhere - Google Project Hosting

svn checkout zenithlib - Revision 119: /trunk zenithlib-read-only

Krzysztof

Krzysiaczek99 · Aug 9, 2012, 9:44am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krzysiaczek99

Well theories are different about it. Thanks to our Chinese brother we have this
collection of papers which are researching this a bit

/trunk/papers/trading/ - zenithlib - library everywhere - Google Project Hosting

svn checkout zenithlib - Revision 119: /trunk zenithlib-read-only

Krzysztof

Wow !!! the paper from the library form link above

2003-Using_Recurrent_Neural_Networks_To_Forecasting_of_ Forex

says that.

Probability of correct sign of increments forecasting for CHF EUR GBP JPY
0,79 0,78 0,78 0,89

Otherwise very good straight forward paper.

Krzysztof

Krzysiaczek99 · Aug 18, 2012, 3:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by arryex

Hi All,

This article shows how Kohonen SOM implementation using Viscovery SOMine.

My conclusion is this SOM classification help me out to select some good stocks and then use technical analysis as my trade entry/exit.

Good tool for this is VisuMap also

VisuMap Technologies: Visualizing high dimensional complex data

arryex · Aug 19, 2012, 8:00am

Hi Kryzstof,

Long time not see the thread...a lot of nice things you put here.. Thanks..

After registration, link to download Visumap is http://www.visumap.net/registered/VisuMap3_5.msi
inside via this link http://www.visumap.net/registered/RegMain.aspx

Documentation found here http://www.visumap.net/registered/Do...p/VisuMap.html

Aug 4, 2012, 6:41pm	#897
tovim Junior Member Member Since Aug 2010 34 Posts	Re: Build Neural Network Indicator in MT4 using Neuroshell Hi Arryex, Do you have any experience with NeuroSolutions? It looks as it has more features and more advanced than Neuroshell.I am going to try CANFIS network I wonder if that network available in free demo version?

Aug 5, 2012, 1:44am	#898
arryex Veteran Member Member Since Feb 2008 517 Posts	Re: Build Neural Network Indicator in MT4 using Neuroshell To Maariuszn, I do not check the benefit one of them, you can use both normalization and standardization choose which one give better result. To Tovim, Neurosolutions give me a good impression for many options on NN configuration, but after testing for me not giving a better result. Concerning CANFIS, Neurosolutions suggested only use maximum 5 inputs then I am stuck with my 17 inputs, I use version 5 not sure in version 6. The error message "Due to exponential relationship between the number of input columns and the number of input processing elements, it is recommended that this model be limited to data sets that have 5 or less inputs", if I still continue with my 14 inputs the builder is not responding. Probably Neurosolutions good for students...

Aug 8, 2012, 9:27am	#899
Krzysiaczek99 Senior Member Member Since Jan 2009 311 Posts	Forex/som/svn Designing a FOREX Trading System using SOFM and SVM - Peltarion Forums

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tovim Junior Member Member Since Aug 2010 34 Posts	Re: Build Neural Network Indicator in MT4 using Neuroshell Interesting comment from Peltarion Team '' SOMs and SVMs only work on static algorithms'' so what types of NN and SVM algos work for continous time series?

Aug 19, 2012, 8:00am	#904
arryex Veteran Member Member Since Feb 2008 517 Posts	Re: Build Neural Network Indicator in MT4 using Neuroshell Hi Kryzstof, Long time not see the thread...a lot of nice things you put here.. Thanks.. After registration, link to download Visumap is http://www.visumap.net/registered/VisuMap3_5.msi inside via this link http://www.visumap.net/registered/RegMain.aspx Documentation found here http://www.visumap.net/registered/Do...p/VisuMap.html Last edited by arryex; Aug 19, 2012 at 8:10am.

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