Refco clearing Fimat ! !

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Old Oct 26, 2005, 10:09am   #9
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It is possible that they are using TT as front end software to clear somewhere other than Refco. It is not possible to clear refco and use TT as Refco do not support TT at all at the moment.
I suppose you can either use RefcoPro and clear refco or have another clearer but then you can use TT.

Quite a neat solution for some traders. I suppose you get the benefit of having a choice of clearer although you are still in the same office
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Old Oct 26, 2005, 10:23am   #10
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It is possible that they are using TT as front end software to clear somewhere other than Refco. It is not possible to clear refco and use TT as Refco do not support TT at all at the moment.
I suppose you can either use RefcoPro and clear refco or have another clearer but then you can use TT.

Quite a neat solution for some traders. I suppose you get the benefit of having a choice of clearer although you are still in the same office
As I understand it Futex give there clients a choice of three clearers Refco, Fimat and Fortis. If you use TT you cannot clear Refco so have too choice one of the other two. Smart move.
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Old Oct 26, 2005, 12:50pm   #11
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Good by the end of the month will be like a supermarket, get in choose you clearer, system and go. What an idea!!!! Lets be sensible, i do not think the clearing houses will be very happy, about sharing, but also the cost of maintaining different gateways with each clearer for the pleasure of the trader is very hard to believe. Do not forget the clearer gives good rates because of the volumes traded, split that by three and i think the rates will not be as good. Futex is a small operation, maybe this is a good advertisement to get some exposure based on recent events.

If though they can actually make the clearer supermarket and still maintain low commissions, Well what the heck, It can only be good for us all.
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Old Oct 27, 2005, 3:53am   #12
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The only way I can see this possible is Futex connect to Fimat/Fortis via the Internet. Not only would Fortis and Fimat charge them high rates due to the low round turns but the cost of having 3 separate leased lines going into each of the clearers offices just doesnt pan out. I for one would not trade from an office via the internet, surely direct access is the only solution for professional traders and surely this is what we pay our desk fees for.
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Old Oct 27, 2005, 3:54am   #13
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bundbaby started this thread They are not as small as u may think. They have offices in Weybridge & Woking and are getting close to 100 traders. Thats probably why they have more than one clearer. Just gives the trader the choice of using Trader Technology software if he needs it.
I agree with you GEM: If you as a trader can choose his clearer, his software yet still have the back up of a good prop house, and importantly, have clearing fees at a good level, it must be a good thing
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Old Oct 27, 2005, 8:42am   #14
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Dont get me wrong I also think this is a great idea but I just cannot see it being feasable from a cost perspective. Unless they have one office connecting to Fimat and the other to Fortis?? But 2 or 3 lines coming out of one office cannot be cost effective.
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Old Oct 27, 2005, 8:51am   #15
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I would sugest that this is not the way too do it.
If you set all you lines and connection in one way, say Fortis, for the clients that elect to clear Refco or Fimat you just give the business up via trade allocation to the other clearers.
With middle office technology you auto allocate and autoclaim giving no default risk.
Just an idea?
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Old Oct 27, 2005, 11:17am   #16
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They are not as small as u may think. They have offices in Weybridge & Woking and are getting close to 100 traders. Thats probably why they have more than one clearer. Just gives the trader the choice of using Trader Technology software if he needs it.
I agree with you GEM: If you as a trader can choose his clearer, his software yet still have the back up of a good prop house, and importantly, have clearing fees at a good level, it must be a good thing

I know the company and know more than a few people working there, for the last three years. I know that Futex is not even close to 100 traders, they moved to Woking a few months ago and at the moment there are around 30 active traders there.

I have to give it to you though good advertisement for the company.

But lets stick to the facts.
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