Complaint about Howard Cohodas, his associated threads and the treatment of them

[DashRiprock]

Look, if the mods don't like lulz then they should delete Howards posts not mine. Howard is the protagonist of lulz.

He is using trade to win to promote his option coaching service. By provoking reactions from other members here he will get better results from search engines and attract attention to his service by his potential clients; and Howard is aware that if he doesn't lose his cool and uses a wide vocabulary, people new to options or the markets in general will deduce (incorrectly) that he is an authority on options.

He refuses to have any sort of discussion or conversation, his response to every post is merely to spout out strings of long words that have no bearing and make no sense in the context of his threads. It is like talking to a brick wall.

Trade to win has, whether it thinks so or not, endorsed Howards course by interviewing him and then publishing it on the website. The fact that it has been categorically determined that Howard does not understand options or how to trade them, yet he continues to claim otherwise, is completely ignored. Notwithstanding that, Howards course would be a step backwards, not forwards, for anyone who went on his course.

It is irresponsible and immoral for trade to win to let him keep up this charade. The Mods look on his multiple threads and see lulz and their automatic reaction is "lulz are bad" so they delete the lulz and keep howards gobsh!te up. What the trade to win administration don't understand is that Howard is the starter of lulz and if they shouldn't jump to conclusions about who is to blame.

If you want less lulz, get rid of Howard. Nothing he posts is of any use to anybody here, it is all absolute balls. He's using trade to win to promote his services by be the protagonist of lulz, well aware that the admin don't know what's really going on and will prune the thread under the misguided impression that he is the sensible party.

Are you all really so blind as to what is going on?

 

[wackypete2]

How about if you don't like his threads you just ignore them.
Who's really clueless here..Howard? or all the posters that keep getting sucked in and wound up?

Do any of you actually trade??

Peter

 

[tar]

How about if you don't like his threads you just ignore them.
Who's really clueless here..Howard? or all the posters that keep getting sucked in and wound up?

Do any of you actually trade??

Peter

 

[counter_violent]

Look, if the mods don't like lulz then they should delete Howards posts not mine. Howard is the protagonist of lulz.

He is using trade to win to promote his option coaching service. By provoking reactions from other members here he will get better results from search engines and attract attention to his service by his potential clients; and Howard is aware that if he doesn't lose his cool and uses a wide vocabulary, people new to options or the markets in general will deduce (incorrectly) that he is an authority on options.

He refuses to have any sort of discussion or conversation, his response to every post is merely to spout out strings of long words that have no bearing and make no sense in the context of his threads. It is like talking to a brick wall.

Trade to win has, whether it thinks so or not, endorsed Howards course by interviewing him and then publishing it on the website. The fact that it has been categorically determined that Howard does not understand options or how to trade them, yet he continues to claim otherwise, is completely ignored. Notwithstanding that, Howards course would be a step backwards, not forwards, for anyone who went on his course.

It is irresponsible and immoral for trade to win to let him keep up this charade. The Mods look on his multiple threads and see lulz and their automatic reaction is "lulz are bad" so they delete the lulz and keep howards gobsh!te up. What the trade to win administration don't understand is that Howard is the starter of lulz and if they shouldn't jump to conclusions about who is to blame.

If you want less lulz, get rid of Howard. Nothing he posts is of any use to anybody here, it is all absolute balls. He's using trade to win to promote his services by be the protagonist of lulz, well aware that the admin don't know what's really going on and will prune the thread under the misguided impression that he is the sensible party.

Are you all really so blind as to what is going on?

What an absolute and total utter load of drivel !

You might start with the difference between "admin" and "mods"

 

[Hotch]

Just wait Dash, he's probably paid Sharky, next week you'll log on to find Howard's face as a full screen ad.

 

[Splitlink]

Howard and I agreed to disagree last year. Everyone has a right to post and we are all free to come and go on the threads. Whether he knows what he is talking about matters little to me, there are plenty of others to talk to.

 

[the hare]

What an absolute and total utter load of drivel !

I thought it was one of the better posts that I've seen for quite a while.

Why is that that practically everytime anyone tells the truth they are either banned, or their posts deleted, or dismissed as drivel, is this some form of official T2W policy ?

 

[tar]

I thought it was one of the better posts that I've seen for quite a while.

Why is that that practically everytime anyone tells the truth they are either banned, or their posts deleted, or dismissed as drivel, is this some form of official T2W policy ?

lol did u really read it ?! i couldnt its long , also i noticed that posts in t2w is longer these days , inflation , wonder why ?

 

[the hare]

lol did u really read it ?! i couldnt its long , also i noticed that posts in t2w is longer these days , inflation , wonder why ?

Yeah I read it. Its the second really good post by dashdiprock in the last few days.

He's posted some quality lulz too.

I've also noticed that signitures in T2W are also getting longer. Particulartly the signatures of vendors. Lightening McQueen has previously promised to do some research into this

 

[DashRiprock]

For those who haven't yet managed to join the dots, lets start with the premises behind what I'm saying.

1. He's runs an options teaching service
2. He comprehensively misunderstands option theory and practice.
3. When questioned, he wont engage in discussion.

Which of those 3 things are incorrect? NONE. They are the dots, this is how to join them:

1. Howard is aware his strategy is misguided, that isn't his concern
2. Howard knows that if he keeps up his obfuscation long enough, his opponents will give up.
3. The result is a thread that looks to the potential client (and option novice), that:

3a. Howard presented his strategy to the board
3b. The legitimacy of his strategy was called into question
3c. Howard politely engaged in discussion
3d. No agreement could be made on his strategy
3e. Other parties were reduced to lulz
3f. Howards strategy and course remain legitimate

This is what he's trying to do. He doesn't give a toss that what he will teach is wrong wrong wrong, he just wants to be seen to be the responsible party as seen from someone who doesn't understand the technical flaws in his understanding and strategy - from someone new to options (hell, you all fell for it!).

What he is doing is purposefully engaging in subterfuge in order to build a sense of credibility. He has said so himself that he guides any potential students to these boards; he is praying on the naivety of people who want to learn about options and using their good faith against them.

And you're letting him do it.

 

[tar]

long

 

[barjon]

Look, if the mods don't like lulz then they should delete Howards posts not mine. Howard is the protagonist of lulz.

He is using trade to win to promote his option coaching service. By provoking reactions from other members here he will get better results from search engines and attract attention to his service by his potential clients; and Howard is aware that if he doesn't lose his cool and uses a wide vocabulary, people new to options or the markets in general will deduce (incorrectly) that he is an authority on options.

He refuses to have any sort of discussion or conversation, his response to every post is merely to spout out strings of long words that have no bearing and make no sense in the context of his threads. It is like talking to a brick wall.

Trade to win has, whether it thinks so or not, endorsed Howards course by interviewing him and then publishing it on the website. The fact that it has been categorically determined that Howard does not understand options or how to trade them, yet he continues to claim otherwise, is completely ignored. Notwithstanding that, Howards course would be a step backwards, not forwards, for anyone who went on his course.

It is irresponsible and immoral for trade to win to let him keep up this charade. The Mods look on his multiple threads and see lulz and their automatic reaction is "lulz are bad" so they delete the lulz and keep howards gobsh!te up. What the trade to win administration don't understand is that Howard is the starter of lulz and if they shouldn't jump to conclusions about who is to blame.

If you want less lulz, get rid of Howard. Nothing he posts is of any use to anybody here, it is all absolute balls. He's using trade to win to promote his services by be the protagonist of lulz, well aware that the admin don't know what's really going on and will prune the thread under the misguided impression that he is the sensible party.

Are you all really so blind as to what is going on?

Dash

Since I've been responsible for most of the deletions I will reply.

Firstly, vendors are able to post on T2W so long as they do not directly and overtly tout for business. And as long as they declare their vendor status so that members are aware of the background commercial interest and can therefore judge the vendors' contributions accordingly.

Secondly, members are free to criticise content as strongly as they like (without going ott in terms of language etc) but they are not free to attack or insult other members personally, whether they be vendors or not.

Thirdly. lulz may be a lot of fun at the time but, as I said on Arabian's "serious" thread, threads maintain and members coming to a thread do not want to have to wade through masses of "off topic" lulz if they are interested in following the topic of the thread.

That's it.

jon

 

[new_trader]

I thought it was one of the better posts that I've seen for quite a while.

Why is that that practically everytime anyone tells the truth they are either banned, or their posts deleted, or dismissed as drivel, is this some form of official T2W policy ?

What an absolute load of drivel. You ought to be banned immediately.

 

[donaldduke]

Trade to win has, whether it thinks so or not, endorsed Howards course by interviewing him and then publishing it on the website.

Newbs are attracted to Vendors like flies to sh1t and trade2win know this.

It's the Newbs that will do most of the advert clicks on this site.

 

[HAL 9000]

Are you talking about "noobs" or "plebs"?

Speaking as a "noob" I kinda resent this idea that we're all a bunch of tw@ts that need constant saving from ourselves. We are not all wet behind the ears delusional morons you know, some of us can actually see bull**** served up as know-how.

Please if you want to have a pop at vendors then go for it, but don't dress it up as if your on some crusade to save everyone, this is a trading forum after all not Net Mums.

 

[DashRiprock]

Are you talking about "noobs" or "plebs"?

Speaking as a "noob" I kinda resent this idea that we're all a bunch of tw@ts that need constant saving from ourselves. We are not all wet behind the ears delusional morons you know, some of us can actually see bull**** served up as know-how.

Please if you want to have a pop at vendors then go for it, but don't dress it up as if your on some crusade to save everyone, this is a trading forum after all not Net Mums.

im not trying to "save all the noobs" LOL

I'm merely highlighting that Howard is purposefully abusing T2W in order to assist in playing confidence tricks on his potential students.

and I dont think trade to win to should be complicit to it.

 

[scose-no-doubt]

Are you talking about "noobs" or "plebs"?

Speaking as a "noob" I kinda resent this idea that we're all a bunch of tw@ts that need constant saving from ourselves. We are not all wet behind the ears delusional morons you know, some of us can actually see bull**** served up as know-how.

Please if you want to have a pop at vendors then go for it, but don't dress it up as if your on some crusade to save everyone, this is a trading forum after all not Net Mums.

If you're a newb then you haven't seen what we've seen.
These crusades are entirely justified (for the most part lol) people like kojak boyles will have saved the unsuspecting masses literally thousands of pounds of their hard earned money. Sometimes life savings.
Charlatans and vendors have also relieved people of hundreds of thousands of pounds over the last year so...

 

[donaldduke]

Are you talking about "noobs" or "plebs"?

Speaking as a "noob" I kinda resent this idea that we're all a bunch of tw@ts that need constant saving from ourselves. We are not all wet behind the ears delusional morons you know, some of us can actually see bull**** served up as know-how.

Please if you want to have a pop at vendors then go for it, but don't dress it up as if your on some crusade to save everyone, this is a trading forum after all not Net Mums.

Im not on crusade to save anyone, you are reading too much into my posts, i dont give a **** if anyone gets ripped off or not.

And the vast majority of Newbs who hand over large sums of money to vendors are tw@ts.

 

[DashRiprock]

Dash

Since I've been responsible for most of the deletions I will reply.

Firstly, vendors are able to post on T2W so long as they do not directly and overtly tout for business. And as long as they declare their vendor status so that members are aware of the background commercial interest and can therefore judge the vendors' contributions accordingly.

I suggest you re-read all of Howards threads in the light that I have now painted them. Do you think this is the appropriate behaviour of a responsible vendor?


Secondly, members are free to criticise content as strongly as they like (without going ott in terms of language etc) but they are not free to attack or insult other members personally, whether they be vendors or not.

I think you will find that Much of Howards positions are ad hominem, they just use more syllables


Thirdly. lulz may be a lot of fun at the time but, as I said on Arabian's "serious" thread, threads maintain and members coming to a thread do not want to have to wade through masses of "off topic" lulz if they are interested in following the topic of the thread.

Yes, but sometimes lulz are worth it for lulz sake. I don't think this little ditty crosses the lines of decency. See below.


That's it.

jon

Another song to Howard Cohodas, written by DashRiprock
(sung to the tune of "here comes the hotstepper", by Ini Kamoze)

Hit it
Nah, na na na nah, na na na nah, na na nah, na na nah,
na na na nah

Nah, na na na nah, na na na nah, na na nah, na na nah,
na na na nah


Howard is a plonker
(Short-Gamma)
Doesnt know his exposure
(Short Gamma)
no view on volatility
(Short Gamma)
Still trades the same strat
(Short Gamma)

No, No, we don't lie
we give true replies
your account will be small when the fat lady sings
Act like you know, you do
actually you know, **** all
probability of touch? Uh Oh!
what about the greeks?

Howard is a plonker
(Short-Gamma)
Doesnt know his exposure
(Short Gamma)
no view on volatility
(Short Gamma)
Still trades the same strat
(Short Gamma)

extra -a -polate it
your strategy is sh!t
Money to burn, howard all of the time
How to manage RISKS
How to take a HIT
Doesn't matter cos he went to flight schoo-ool

Howard is a plonker
(Short-Gamma)
Doesnt know his exposure
(Short Gamma)
no view on volatility
(Short Gamma)
Still trades the same strat
(Short Gamma)

Nah, na na na nah, na na na nah, na na nah, na na nah,
na na na nah

Nah, na na na nah, na na na nah, na na nah, na na nah,
na na na nah

he lives on a treadmill
he knows conceald carry
but this dont mean jack, thats it, understand?
MG's the daddy of option theory
when he tells you that your wrong, thats it
you'll say stop mis-represen-ting meeee"

Howard is a plonker
(Short-Gamma)
Doesnt know his exposure
(Short Gamma)
no view on volatility
(Short Gamma)
Still trades the same strat
(Short Gamma)

No, No, we don't lie
we give true replies
your so out of your depth, that its embarassing
act like, you know, your age
and your definately not, a sage
your probably just an-other trolllll

Howard is a plonker
(Short-Gamma)
Doesnt know his exposure
(Short Gamma)
no view on volatility
(Short Gamma)
Still trades the same strat
(Short Gamma)

Nah, na na na nah, na na na nah, na na nah, na na nah,
na na na nah

Nah, na na na nah, na na na nah, na na nah, na na nah,
na na na nah

 

[HowardCohodas]

im not trying to "save all the noobs" LOL

I'm merely highlighting that Howard is purposefully abusing T2W in order to assist in playing confidence tricks on his potential students.

and I dont think trade to win to should be complicit to it.

You are suspicious of my motives. That is your right. I am suspicious of yours. That is my right.

But here is what I believe is terribly wrong about your posts. You know nothing about my pricing (it's unpublished) and yet you characterize it as a rip-off.

You do not believe in my strategy. That's OK. You try to convince others that I will be dishonest about the criticism of my strategy in spite of evidence to the contrary. This is more than unjust.

I wont ascribe your actions to the motives I suspect because my knowledge of psychology is limited. I think you would do well to do the same.