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Old Mar 3, 2012, 1:09pm   #1
 
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Could not find a better place than this website to post my questions.
During some 7 years of being involved in markets and systems study have come across some interesting things.
Among them are my current studies on the stock market, simple, objective, pragmatic rules of valuing companies based on what they are, not what they
can be , no "ifs" or "maybes". Below will post some backtested results having the universe of candidates limited to those 500 companies in the S&P500
and the mock portfolio being limited to the most undervalued 4 companies in the mentioned universe

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And now the top 1 most discounted company in the S&P500
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And to check the validity of it have flipped the rules and the returns would have looked like this
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And the 2 proprietary rules also work in the whole universe of stocks. For illustration purpose SP was used.
This is not the only positive expectancy system in the bag, but the simplest to implement.
A general ideea of it would be, holding stocks that are cheap, unjustifiably.
As seen on websites that this kind of investing/trading is looked for, but would have to pass thru 2-3 or more years of live trading then to showcase it (explaining it in detail?), a thing wich im reluctant to do.

My questions for you;
Is this information of any value to anyone else besides me?
How could one start a mutual benefit partnership based on the mentioned strategy?

Altho I would of loved to mention that I hold an academia backround on the matter, I prefer to have a personal trackrecord of vision, diligence and perseveverance.
All your inputs are greatlly appreciated
Best regards, Adrian
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Old Mar 6, 2012, 4:02pm   #2
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Backtesting is not enough. Need real trading. JMHO
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Old Mar 6, 2012, 7:50pm   #3
 
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evermore started this thread thank you
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Old Mar 7, 2012, 9:17pm   #4
 
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My questions for you;
Is this information of any value to anyone else besides me?
Yes.
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Old Mar 8, 2012, 11:53am   #5
 
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evermore started this thread Thank you Alexander, that gave me some hope, was starting to think otherwise. Could you please give me some pointers as well ? I am seriouslly considering automating the forward tests, the portfolio of systems, with interactivebrokers, wishing to remove human error from it. Would anyone know if possible to automate the trading of fundamental ratios from balance sheet and income statement items? What would be some robust and user friendlly platforms to help me, as i do not know programing(yet)
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Evermore - consider that he markets are a large sea.

In that sea, there are whales, sharks, big fish and little fish.

What you are doing right now is learning how little fish trade. The problem is, they tend to get eaten.

Think about it. There's sharks out there with billions of dollars. Do you think those people play fair or do you think they play in such a way as to eat as many fish as they can?

Any approach you take that does not take into account the way that the sharks play the game will end in you losing money.

The markets are not a 'fair' place. There is money involved.
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Old Mar 8, 2012, 1:46pm   #7
 
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Evermore - consider that he markets are a large sea.

In that sea, there are whales, sharks, big fish and little fish.

What you are doing right now is learning how little fish trade. The problem is, they tend to get eaten.

Think about it. There's sharks out there with billions of dollars. Do you think those people play fair or do you think they play in such a way as to eat as many fish as they can?

Any approach you take that does not take into account the way that the sharks play the game will end in you losing money.

The markets are not a 'fair' place. There is money involved.
Nice analogy DionysusToast, I tend to think that next to those big large calculated sharks are also remora fish that go along just well with shark's leftovers, and i'm not afraid by those sharks and their billions as you said. Seeing their overall results it seems to me that they swim in undersized fish bowl(limited opportunities).

Thank you for the reply and wish you all the best, Adrian
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