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Old Oct 24, 2006, 10:24pm   #33
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looks like the knights round table will be minor compared to Vinces




[QUOTE=alberto]Bloody large table ...
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Old Oct 25, 2006, 11:49am   #34
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BUt I WILL say this about Vince Stanzione..

When I tried one of his services some years ago, he said many times to trade and BUY the Dow on a longer term basis.... and Not to short it.... Seeing what the dow has eventually done ie gone to new highs, he certainly proved correct on that... I will give him credit for that suggestion..
Oh My!

Mindblowing advice, I wonder if he was the only person to come up with such an original investment strategy
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Old Oct 25, 2006, 12:40pm   #35
 
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I can remember " Good old Vince " from almost ten years ago and fortunately never at that time never had the cash to go on 0ne of his training courses . However I did invest about 100 pounds in some basic introduction to Spread Betting written by him at the time ! it was basic you could have got all the information for Free from any spread betting company ! He even sudjested several companies to open an account with ! when I spoke to one of them and offerd his name as someone who had recommended me to there company . I was told to take his claims as a big roller with a pinch of salt !! . And they had nothing to win or loose from offering the information to me .

In the years that followed I got regular fantastic offers from him at various different amounts but never showed any further interest in him . I do remember a story about the Indian restaurant owner somewhere in his literature ! I f he ever really existed in real life and made the money Vince sudjests Then I doubt strongly if it had anything to with our friend Vince or his teaching .

Would sudjest to anyone hot to send him there hard earned cash for seminars , systems or books . to take half the amount and send it to your favourite charity , the other half treat youself and girl friend / wife to a nice evening out .

Then sit bacK knowing you not one of the many losers .

Be Lucky . Country Roads .
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Old Oct 26, 2006, 7:17am   #36
 
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a quote I found may be of interest if anyone is curious on one of vince's methods

"2/20 ema breakout system by dave landry is similar to vinces 20/40 rule"

and a link to dave's system with metastock code

http://www.arbtrading.com/emabreakout.htm

I just dont have the time right now to check it out, if nobody else does I may in due course

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Old Oct 26, 2006, 8:23am   #37
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a quote I found may be of interest if anyone is curious on one of vince's methods

"2/20 ema breakout system by dave landry is similar to vinces 20/40 rule"

and a link to dave's system with metastock code

http://www.arbtrading.com/emabreakout.htm

I just dont have the time right now to check it out, if nobody else does I may in due course

cheers

don
The problem with these trend following systems is that they look great when placed on the charts of certain stocks. The problem is that these systems dont detect stocks where a trend following system is going to work. I seen a fair few of these seminars one way or another (You can buy the recordings very cheaply on ebay) and I would say that 'curve fitting' is the vendors number one tool in getting folks to believe. The fact is that quite often 'The Stock Market' will sell itself. Throw up a chart which shows a stock moving from $5 to $100 in 18 months and you'll get the attention of 99% of the people in the room. What would be interesting would be for someone who went to run a test group where all the results could be posted onto a website.

With regards to Vince's "one small table" - It's blatantly obvious that he's going to need a bloody large one. I'd also agree with something written earlier. For VS to offer half price tickets is quite likely a sign that the first mailing was fairly unsuccessful. Might be worth ringing and offering £200 the day before the seminar! It could of course be an indication that the seminar market is reaching some kind of saturation.

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Old Oct 26, 2006, 9:17am   #38
 
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The problem with these trend following systems is that they look great when placed on the charts of certain stocks. The problem is that these systems dont detect stocks where a trend following system is going to work. I seen a fair few of these seminars one way or another (You can buy the recordings very cheaply on ebay) and I would say that 'curve fitting' is the vendors number one tool in getting folks to believe. The fact is that quite often 'The Stock Market' will sell itself. Throw up a chart which shows a stock moving from $5 to $100 in 18 months and you'll get the attention of 99% of the people in the room. What would be interesting would be for someone who went to run a test group where all the results could be posted onto a website.

With regards to Vince's "one small table" - It's blatantly obvious that he's going to need a bloody large one. I'd also agree with something written earlier. For VS to offer half price tickets is quite likely a sign that the first mailing was fairly unsuccessful. Might be worth ringing and offering £200 the day before the seminar! It could of course be an indication that the seminar market is reaching some kind of saturation.

Steve.
Hi Steve
you are correct of course on curve fitting, that has got to be the perfect bait to catch newbies

if only they would do an internet search first before they sign up to these kind of things, they would then find this site, be warned of the perils and be able to learn the tools to be able to find their own path in trading.

one of the easiest ways to start the learning process imo is to take someones strategy, study it, check out how it works, ask yourself why it works or doesn't as the case may be. think how it could be made to work. if the strategy is obviously rubbish move on to another
someone somewhere will have posted on the internet, for free, a strategy that will suit a newbie if only they would take the time to learn the basic knowledge that will allow them to recognise it when they find it.

some members may be wondering of my interest in this thread. it is because of researching a mr vincent stanzione a few years ago and finding this site, its a shame many do not.

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Old Oct 28, 2006, 9:37am   #39
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yaaaaaaaaaaaawn.

i really dont see what the problem is. so VS is basically saying trade breakouts (either to the upside or the downside) or possibly get in a bit earlier when price crosses the 200 day MA. apply a trailing stop loss to cut losses short and and let profits run. he even advocates limited risk stop losses if using derivs.

assuming you're not a total idiot, apply good money management, are well capitalised so trading costs aren't a huge %, know who to read a company balance sheet, know how cyclical sector rotation etc etc then as you let your profits run and cut your losses short u will make money. hardly rocket science is it?

but as we all know most ppl lose £££ in this business as they cant stick to simple rules. if you have the patience to let positions run then whats the problem. trend following is not a dirty word and its how i make MY money. i no longer care about fib or gann or elliot. neither do i TRY to pick tops or bottoms. so i only grab a bit of the move. bid deal. so he uses charts that look good to show the point. big deal.

i've seen the course (copied free of course!) and its better than most. there's no BS in it. its not some sexy day trading rec 100's of indicators. its simple MA which EVERYONE else is watching / trading. he also says dont best not trade the index to newbies. good advice as most of us know on here!

later

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Old Nov 26, 2006, 8:28pm   #40
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I Think his system would have flagged a short

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On November 22, 2006 the Company was informed by its telephony service provider
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