Have we seen the top of the FTSE yet?

cu20052003

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Hi there

I reckon that with the current national economic outlay and the Labour government not being able to do much, the FTSE might well be seeing the TOP/ PEAK of its short term rally.

Give your five-pence view or make your opinions heard right here in this little thread that I have just started.

S K

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Be one with GOD, so that HE may appoint a deliver for your Soul! -HariHaraBramKalki ( S K )

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i agree with your view...however need to see confirmation on charts ....perhaps a weekly close downward by 2% .
 
Hi

I have actual Fundamental Analysis data that the deviations might be more of a 4-10 % point downward. Might not be a spiral to a support of 5,200 yet but that is my analysis using current FA data.

But of course, intraday analysis depends on the data feeds and Tech Analysis instead.
I am certain that 5,200 plus minus 75 points would be a comfortable region for those who might consider short-selling the FTSE futures or even spread trade or bet!

The Spread traders of course, cannot carry a roll over trade to the next day. Of, for those of you who might want to spread trade or bet, please do consider this point. And I definitely would discourage anyone getting into credit card debts for the sake of getting to trade or spread trade. Makes no sense here.

The Fri ( 29/08 ) close is 5,637 - up 36 points from ( 28/08 ) Thurs closing of 5,601 and of course that was steadily rising little from the rest of the week.

S K




i agree with your view...however need to see confirmation on charts ....perhaps a weekly close downward by 2% .
 
For me to go short i would be looking for :

a) FTSE to CLOSE ( on weekly basis ) lower than last weeks low. ( 1 st trade )
b) Drop to be at least 2% lower than last Friday close.( 2 nd trade )
 
Downward at 5,651

4 percent of 5,637 is 225.48 and plus minus 75 points of that would give the higher and lower mean. HM - 300.48 and the lower mean would be 150.48 of course it is still not a downward spiral to the bottom!
S K


I have actual Fundamental Analysis data that the deviations might be more of a 4-10 % point downward. Might not be a spiral to a support of 5,200 yet but that is my analysis using current FA data.

But of course, intraday analysis depends on the data feeds and Tech Analysis instead.
I am certain that 5,200 plus minus 75 points would be a comfortable region for those who might consider short-selling the FTSE futures or even spread trade or bet!

The Spread traders of course, cannot carry a roll over trade to the next day. Of, for those of you who might want to spread trade or bet, please do consider this point. And I definitely would discourage anyone getting into credit card debts for the sake of getting to trade or spread trade. Makes no sense here.

The Fri ( 29/08 ) close is 5,637 - up 36 points from ( 28/08 ) Thurs closing of 5,601 and of course that was steadily rising little from the rest of the week.

S K
 
Downward spiral

I see your point. Are you going to spread trade/ bet? If so, waiting for the 2 % might not suffice.

For me to go short i would be looking for :

a) FTSE to CLOSE ( on weekly basis ) lower than last weeks low. ( 1 st trade )
b) Drop to be at least 2% lower than last Friday close.( 2 nd trade )
 
Downward

In futures, for myself to go short sell, I have to wait for AT LEAST the 4% ( which is the lower of the range ) - I am a major in military statistics!

For those of you, who might want to spread trade/ bet, please do be extra extra extra extra extra careful. The practice of caution and coupled with money and time management would be the best spread trading policy - no matter how they ( brokerages ) try to simulate the Index.

Spread Trade/ Bet is worse than gambling, 'cos there ain't no way back or rollover to next day.

I have actual Fundamental Analysis data that the deviations might be more of a 4-10 % point downward. Might not be a spiral to a support of 5,200 yet but that is my analysis using current FA data.

But of course, intraday analysis depends on the data feeds and Tech Analysis instead.
I am certain that 5,200 plus minus 75 points would be a comfortable region for those who might consider short-selling the FTSE futures or even spread trade or bet!

The Spread traders of course, cannot carry a roll over trade to the next day. Of, for those of you who might want to spread trade or bet, please do consider this point. And I definitely would discourage anyone getting into credit card debts for the sake of getting to trade or spread trade. Makes no sense here.

The Fri ( 29/08 ) close is 5,637 - up 36 points from ( 28/08 ) Thurs closing of 5,601 and of course that was steadily rising little from the rest of the week.

S K
 
Hi, puregold24carat

For spread betters/ traders, it is the best policy to apply a quick and get it entry/ exit.
No rollover or going in for prolong ( more than 1 hour ) kind of thing. As you know, the market in London would be more and more upbeat dependent on the Treasury and other commercial sector news. Due to unemployment, a lot of other implications would arise.

As you can gather, there would be more unemployment and there would be also more and more crime ( high level ones like hacking and frauds as well ) being committed so do watchout for any online glithes and attacks. It is advised that you never pay the betting/ trading company online either using a credit card or even a debit card. Use crossed check instead. I am a former IT security/ technical consult.

Also never use an IM program ( such as skype or icq ) when you are trading/ betting as these succumb to hacking events or internet virus spread, very easily. If possible use free programs like zonealarm ( firewalls ) and Mcafee site_advisor as these would prevent phishing sites and virus/ hacking from ruining your connection bandwidth. You see there are adwares that can STEAL YOUR BANDWIDTH, so that the data feed from the brokerage slows down - a change in FTSE might take 14 secs instead of the almost real time change!

Spyware/ adware also slows down the PC/ Laptop such that your automated trading system might not execute the proper trading ( STOP or TRAILING STOP ) in time! It will even cause untold stress and frustration if you have to execute it yourself ( in the case of non-automated trading system interface )!

That is why it is necessary to be like a Barbarian Raider than a long term Holder strategy for those who are into spread betting/ trading. Ha, it is also wise to choose a good and trusty brokerage ( it is like you are fighting on their tuft ) as they can turn and backbite ( since the money is in their hands ) you, even though you have an account with them and the money deposit is in the positive. They want to Earn Money ( whether be it from you, the client or from its hedge that it supposedly places for every bet ) - the Main Object!

Let me further advise that there is volitility in the FTSE and of course, there will be a downward coming soon. So, that trendline would hold for days. Do watchout for it. That is like a good wave for those who like a good Surfer, try to get a good surfing record!

I am also into the DOW as well. But will keep the update on a separate tread.



S K

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Hi there

Be one with GOD, so that HE may appoint a deliver for your Soul! -HariHaraBramKalki ( S K )



I have actual Fundamental Analysis data that the deviations might be more of a 4-10 % point downward. Might not be a spiral to a support of 5,200 yet but that is my analysis using current FA data.

But of course, intraday analysis depends on the data feeds and Tech Analysis instead.
I am certain that 5,200 plus minus 75 points would be a comfortable region for those who might consider short-selling the FTSE futures or even spread trade or bet!

The Spread traders of course, cannot carry a roll over trade to the next day. Of, for those of you who might want to spread trade or bet, please do consider this point. And I definitely would discourage anyone getting into credit card debts for the sake of getting to trade or spread trade. Makes no sense here.

The Fri ( 29/08 ) close is 5,637 - up 36 points from ( 28/08 ) Thurs closing of 5,601 and of course that was steadily rising little from the rest of the week.

S K
 
Hi

Also remember the fact that if there is a glitch - up during the down trend, it could be due to other factors ( not local ones like the Treasury or Labour decisions ) like in the case of US - hurricane Gustav! For the EU zone, I think Russia is more likely the case.

Oh, as for IT Advice updates, never use programs like Excel or others on board the same machine ( you can use it on another PC/ Laptop ) while you are using the trading program. So, during trade, open up the trading system, use that and THAT PROGRAM ALONE ( plus any other useful INTERFACE/s ONLY ) for the brokerage.

For those with multiple brokerage trading accounts, use different machines where and when possible. Otherwise, get a machine with lots of RAM on board the PC/ Laptop! Trading is like GAMING, a good gaming PC/ Laptop is OK.

So, configure your STOP to sound alarms or other music when you exit! This is a good advice that I also give to my clients!

S K

4 percent of 5,637 is 225.48 and plus minus 75 points of that would give the higher and lower mean. HM - 300.48 and the lower mean would be 150.48 of course it is still not a downward spiral to the bottom!
S K
 
Hi S K...

Looking at the FTSE graph, I still think that there is more to be seen on the upside in the short term - it looks like it could reach just below the 5700 mark before retracing along the downwards trend to 5200ish. I think there is potential for it to break the 5650 mark this week.

Saying this - everyone should be aware that we may indeed be seeing the end to the short term rally very soon!!

Any thoughts?
 
Hi to ALL IN MY THREAD!

Fundamentals and Tech Analysis can't be wrong as the signals are always there. Well, if a person always have 2 meals each day, chances are that he will have a problem if he does not have 2 meals the next day! He definitely would, 1) Steal, if there is a food shortage, 2) Kill, if there are wild stock or farmed animal stock around and or even 3) Turn Cannibal, if given that there are already dead human beings available ( due to the hunger )! Each scenario being escalating in severity of the same situation!

You will not see the FTSE pass the closing point of 5,637 on Fri as I am writing this reply, my chap. But, please do reconsider using IG spreads as I do not find them trustworthy enough ( my criteria being very very strict ). But of course, for smaller betting sums like yours ( I presume and hope that is the case ) of not more than a few thousands perhaps, that would be OK. But not for those who spread trade/ bet into the hundreds of thousands. Spread trading/ betting as I have advised is worse off much worse off than gambling itself! My rules are 1) Never rollover, 2) Never do without an exit point, 3) Not more than 1 to 3 hours, 4) Surf the Tide and get the Ride, 5) Check out the brokerage's financial stability from a day to day basis - what is the use of trading if the brokerage is going bust soon?

Please do take note of the above mentioned if you would consider in the long run as spread trading can be a lucrative money earner for some who are advised by myself!

S K


Hi S K...

Looking at the FTSE graph, I still think that there is more to be seen on the upside in the short term - it looks like it could reach just below the 5700 mark before retracing along the downwards trend to 5200ish. I think there is potential for it to break the 5650 mark this week.

Saying this - everyone should be aware that we may indeed be seeing the end to the short term rally very soon!!

Any thoughts?
 
very sound advice there cu20052003. do you just trade ftse only or other markets?

How did you come to your figures for friday's close? I have been informed tht the ftse follows the dow market, do you believe in this?
 
Hi, to your kind self, sir!

Hi again

I am very much into the stock and index markets in the US and Asia as well as Europe.

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Yours





S K


very sound advice there cu20052003. do you just trade ftse only or other markets?

How did you come to your figures for friday's close? I have been informed tht the ftse follows the dow market, do you believe in this?
 
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