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Old Sep 9, 2008, 7:26pm   #1
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1. Take your average newbie trader.

2. Get him to make up a trading system.

3. Now, sell when the system says buy and buy when the system says sell.

This must make a profit - or newbie traders can make up a profitable system...

What's the flaw in the logic , guys?

If a system losses money, why not do the opposite and then we'll make money?
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Old Sep 9, 2008, 7:30pm   #2
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A system is more than just a set of buy and sell signals - what about exits? Also slippage, spreads + commissions will always be a factor.
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Most newbie trader strats will be 50/50 actually, and will lose on commission, slippage, spreads etc

Close, buy no cigar
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A system is more than just a set of buy and sell signals - what about exits? Also slippage, spreads + commissions will always be a factor.
Exits are also buys and sells.
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Flaws - never tell the newbie this otherwise he'll reverse his signals.
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Old Sep 9, 2008, 7:45pm   #6
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Most newbie trader strats will be 50/50 actually, and will lose on commission, slippage, spreads etc

Close, buy no cigar
Ha! 50/50 - you should be so lucky....
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What's the flaw in the logic , guys?
Correctly identifying when to Buy and Sell is only one element to developing a profitable strategy.

Look at the Turtles as the classic example. Some made very good money, some lost all of it....yet they were supposed to be following the same rules.....
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What's the flaw in the logic , guys?
The only flaw is that you said "A" newbie trader. What you need is a bunch of your average traders. Add it all up and you're golden. I can't disclose a lot, but those of you familiar with some of the components of the metatrader backend will recognize this. Here is a shot of the open loss on one of our metatrader demo servers. -$34M. All you'd have to do is take the opposite trades. Demo accounts especially as people blow those up at will.
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