In a perfect, vendor free world...

DionysusToast

DionysusToast

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There would be no spammy emails...

There would be no trainers who couldn't trade...

There would be no flashing light salesmen....

There would be no auto-trading bot sellers...

There would be no trading platforms...

There would be no DOM...

There would be no charts...

There would be no brokers...

There would be no trading...

What a wonderful world it would be......
 
DionysusToast said:
There would be no spammy emails...

There would be no trainers who couldn't trade...

There would be no flashing light salesmen....

There would be no auto-trading bot sellers...

There would be no trading platforms...

There would be no DOM...

There would be no charts...

There would be no brokers...

There would be no trading...

What a wonderful world it would be......
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This is such garbage one can't even say "Nice try!".

Nobody objects to platforms, DOM, charts, brokers and trading. These have nothing to do with scuzzy vendors selling useless training and laughable systems. All the good things on your list would remain if all the bad things were eliminated.

The attempt to lump platform providers in with with the Saghboobys, Scamziones and Nazi Secret Guys of this world is absolutely laughable.

Platform providers say they will provide something, and they do. Data feed providers say they will provide something, and they do. "Educators" and systems vendors rob the lazy, gullible and stupid by selling them utter sh1te.

I know you are a vendor, but this is seriously beneath you. I understand you've had a rough few days, but you are just making a spectacle of yourself with nonsense like this.
 
I surprised this thread hasn't sparked more interest. There are many vendors on this site - I would have thought they'd want to make their case, and this thread provides an ideal opportunity to do so.
 
The Leopard said:
This is such garbage one can't even say "Nice try!".

Nobody objects to platforms, DOM, charts, brokers and trading. These have nothing to do with scuzzy vendors selling useless training and laughable systems. All the good things on your list would remain if all the bad things were eliminated.

The attempt to lump platform providers in with with the Saghboobys, Scamziones and Nazi Secret Guys of this world is absolutely laughable.

Platform providers say they will provide something, and they do. Data feed providers say they will provide something, and they do. "Educators" and systems vendors rob the lazy, gullible and stupid by selling them utter sh1te.

I know you are a vendor, but this is seriously beneath you. I understand you've had a rough few days, but you are just making a spectacle of yourself with nonsense like this.
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100% agree mate. DT really let himself down with this post, it's poorly thought out and I am surprised by it as I know he can be smart, maybe been on the pop??. He would be better off removing all reference to scam artists from his wares and actually post about trading not vending. This is trade2win after all, clues in the title dude.
 
It's an interesting question I think.

Imagine if there were no vendors selling mega millionaire systems that guarantee 400 pips a day for only 20 minutes' work etc. Would there be no brokers? Would their be no charts and DOM? Would trading cease?

Presumably, this depends on the belief that most trading volume comes from the kind of people that pay educators and buy fapturbo. I had thought that most trading volume comes from large institutions, and I didn't think that they used fapturbo.

I could be wrong of course. But if I'm not, we could be reasonably confident that even if there was nobody selling fapturbo and the like, we would still have brokers, charts and DOM. Trading would probably continue, albeit in a much reduced form.

This is an attempt to start a genuine debate. I am not taking the p1ss. Even if it sounds like I am.
 
No Mike, this is entirely genuine. I seek enlightenment, not conflict.

Will there be no more charts if Guy Cohen can't shift the last few remaining Nazi boxes?

Will there be no more DOM if Mahmoud Saghbooby doesn't resume his £5,000 training courses?

There is an interesting debate to be had here.

My own view is that we should support (and be grateful to) men like these, because if it were not for them, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange would probably close.
 
The Leopard said:
No Mike, this is entirely genuine. I seek enlightenment, not conflict.

Will there be no more charts if Guy Cohen can't shift the last few remaining Nazi boxes?

Will there be no more DOM if Mahmoud Saghbooby doesn't resume his £5,000 training courses?

There is an interesting debate to be had here.

My own view is that we should support (and be grateful to) men like these, because if it were not for them, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange would probably close.
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LOL, I am only trying to lighten thing up, to be honest I am not sure what you both talking about, and it looks more like an ego trip to me, and really I think all this is not good for both of you, it only can have a bad effect on your performance.

This is just a friendly advice.

Anyway this was a good fight, the first, Fraser was the champion and Ali just got his licence back, after the Vietnam issue. Apparently Fraser helped him out and even let him some money when Ali could not fight and also helped him to get his licence back. Apparently Ali changed his attitude towards Fraser as soon as the match was appointed and also calling him names like negro and gorilla, Fraser was really pissed off.
 
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The Leopard said:
No Mike, this is entirely genuine. I seek enlightenment, not conflict.

Will there be no more charts if Guy Cohen can't shift the last few remaining Nazi boxes?

Will there be no more DOM if Mahmoud Saghbooby doesn't resume his £5,000 training courses?

There is an interesting debate to be had here.

My own view is that we should support (and be grateful to) men like these, because if it were not for them, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange would probably close.
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Leopardo

This is one of the trades I took today, I know you trade in a similar way. I dedicate this trade to you.

The overall strength is down, lower tops, she pulls back to the round number of 1.3140 and this where a little battle is going on, I stand aside, I can see that in the battle she is also forming lower tops, as soon as the bulls let go of the rope, I jumped in.

4 trades today, 1 win, 1 loss, 2 scratch. I found it a bit tough today.
 

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DionysusToast said:
There would be no spammy emails...

There would be no trainers who couldn't trade...

There would be no flashing light salesmen....

There would be no auto-trading bot sellers...

There would be no trading platforms...

There would be no DOM...

There would be no charts...

There would be no brokers...

There would be no trading...

What a wonderful world it would be......
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Like saying if you eliminate all shoplifters there will be no shops left.
 
pboyles said:
Like saying if you eliminate all shoplifters there will be no shops left.
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You make a good point there - we should definitely encourage shoplifting.

Does this hypothesis also hold water?

Imagine a perfect world with no store cards charging 50% pa, doorstep lenders, pay day loan companies, loan sharks and organised crime enforcers. There would be no mortgages or international credit markets.

I think it does.
 
If there were no vendors... Where would I buy a toaster to roast my toast?

Vendors are good to the world, so long as they offer something useful.
 
Imagine a world with no drunk drivers, uninsured drivers, stoned drivers, boy racers and cyclists who zip through red lights.

There'd be no roads, no car manufacturers, and no driving.

It would be inevitable.
 
The Leopard said:
This is such garbage one can't even say "Nice try!".

Nobody objects to platforms, DOM, charts, brokers and trading. These have nothing to do with scuzzy vendors selling useless training and laughable systems. All the good things on your list would remain if all the bad things were eliminated.

The attempt to lump platform providers in with with the Saghboobys, Scamziones and Nazi Secret Guys of this world is absolutely laughable.

Platform providers say they will provide something, and they do. Data feed providers say they will provide something, and they do. "Educators" and systems vendors rob the lazy, gullible and stupid by selling them utter sh1te.

I know you are a vendor, but this is seriously beneath you. I understand you've had a rough few days, but you are just making a spectacle of yourself with nonsense like this.
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Calm down, Gloria. It's just a light hearted topic...

Anyway - so what you are saying is that not all vendors are bad?

Well - that's a step in the right direction.

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Mike Kshemaraja said:
LOL, I am only trying to lighten thing up, to be honest I am not sure what you both talking about, and it looks more like an ego trip to me, and really I think all this is not good for both of you, it only can have a bad effect on your performance.

This is just a friendly advice.
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Mike - this is the internet - it IS a serious bidniss.

Anyway - Sawasdee Pee Mai or Happy Thai New Year, all...
 
DionysusToast said:
Calm down, Gloria. It's just a light hearted topic...

Anyway - so what you are saying is that not all vendors are bad?

Well - that's a step in the right direction.

ryan_mcginley_3.jpg
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Keep back-pedalling. :LOL:

And no - that is not that I am saying. I am drawing the (very obvious) distinction between legitimate providers and lying scum who are reduced to fleecing gullible idiots because they are unable to make any money from their own trading. A distinction that you are (incredibly and with zero success) trying to blur.

Seriously, give it up. The more you try to lump IB and CQG in with scrotes who sell systems and education, the stupider you look. :D
 
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