How the spammers are doing it

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Old Oct 25, 2011, 9:56am   #16
 
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i remember in my SEO days to increase page ranking in google you would create as many backlinks to your site, mostly they were white on white so people wouldn't see it but search engine spiders would. Maybe some form of payment came from how many links were created and clicked on?

I think google stopped the hidden URL thing it many many yrs ago
i think it's a php script or something like that? rather than an url. although sites are mixed up in all this, as a site is involved in the tiny gif image that the "script" is hidden within, one is dependant on the other, if you try access the www .???.php directly then you end up at the site where the gif image is stored. all rather confusing as to the mechanics of it
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Old Oct 25, 2011, 10:08am   #17
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Just a thought...

Considering how crap these robots are at posting relevant content... do you think they are written by the same people that produce the forex robots?
Amusingly, I've actually seen parts of posts that I've made on various trading forums being regurgitated by these bots, and posted as spam elsewhere.

I wrote a forex robot too ! spooky
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Old Oct 25, 2011, 10:35am   #18
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Something tells me Unreal and/or Pipsaholic may have a hand in this. I know they were looking into various scams including the Loz Lawn saga. Ive no proof at the minute, it just somehow seems to fit.
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Old Oct 25, 2011, 11:06am   #19
 
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Plot Thickens!!
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Old Oct 25, 2011, 11:13am   #20
 
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Something tells me Unreal and/or Pipsaholic may have a hand in this. I know they were looking into various scams including the Loz Lawn saga. Ive no proof at the minute, it just somehow seems to fit.
can't see anything, so no, unlikely.

awesome witch-hunt btw
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Old Oct 25, 2011, 11:20am   #21
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The point about posting links without benefit does not make sense to me. As others have said either posting all these was to move up the Google rankings or they get paid by some other means. If nothing else determining the reasons why this was done is fascinating.


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Old Oct 25, 2011, 11:35am   #22
 
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Well, if it is an embedded script, then I presume it's going to make a linked page think it's been clicked.

Other than that - hard to see what's going on.
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Old Oct 25, 2011, 11:38am   #23
 
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i think that was where wackypete was going with the phantom click idea, though i think his post went west in a clearout? when he gets back on we'll know more.
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Old Oct 25, 2011, 11:38am   #24
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I'm googling 'black hat SEO' and found this. Could there have been any white text on white backgrounds in those posts? Actually not white, I just noticed its sort of blueish, still could they have matched the colour and posted invisible text?

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Old Oct 25, 2011, 11:45am   #25
 
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Could there have been any white text on white backgrounds in those posts? Actually not white, I just noticed its sort of blueish, still could they have matched the colour and posted invisible text?
no i don't think that's it, there was no hidden text that could be read directly, it was stored in a tiny symbol smaller than a full stop, the one pete mentioned was a 1x1 pixel, the one i took a screen shot of was a sort of tiny L shape.

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no i don't think that's it, there was no hidden text that could be read directly, it was stored in a tiny symbol smaller than a full stop, the one pete mentioned was a 1x1 pixel, the one i took a screen shot of was a sort of tiny L shape.
Not read directly but read by google/yahoo spiders? So an SEO trick rather than a link to an affiliate site. So need need for a 'click'.

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Not read directly but read by google/yahoo spiders? So an SEO trick rather than a link to an affiliate site. So need need for a 'click'.
they were affilate ads, groupon and amazon, so how does the spidering of these ads get them paid?
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Old Oct 25, 2011, 12:05pm   #28
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wackypete2 started this thread Hey guys...
1x1 pixels are not or do not have to be clickable links. The php script automatically registers a hit each time the page is loaded via the pixel. Without seeing the script I don't know exactly how it works but at a minimum it shows how many times the t2w page(s) were loaded, ie: visitors to the tw2 page(s). This is still useful info.

Also...bad news here. This same method is used in email to transmit adware or malware just by opening the email. IT CAN ALSO BE USED THAT SAME WAY HERE EACH TIME A PAGE WITH THE SCRIPT IS LOADED. However my spyware and virus logs are not registering anything so that's most likely NOT how it's being used here so far.

I had a link to some great info on how the email spam works in a post that was deleted. Naturally I can't find the link again. Shame on me. Maybe barjon can sort though the post.

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Old Oct 25, 2011, 12:12pm   #29
 
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I don't understand how this all works. Would it be the case that every time members opened a zutou post it would have clicked through to a "hit" on Amazon? Since members didn't know they were there they were not "inconvenienced" by being prompted to visit Amazon and I can't see how Amazon would benefit in any way unless those members found their way to them to potentially buy something.

All seems very odd.
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Old Oct 25, 2011, 12:15pm   #30
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Google are pretty sharp when it comes to seo tricks and have recently changed the way that they rank sites and pages. There was a lot of grumbling recently by some companies who suddenly found themselves no longer at the top as they had used to be. One ceo was threatening to sue Google because of this which is utter insanity. I am sure Google would win any case of this sort on the grounds of deciding that it is their business to decide what and how they wish to have as a product and the fact that they would have the legal weight to take on anyone.


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