Learning to trade

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Learning to trade

Hey guys
I am a student at the University of Pretoria and have been looking for a curriculum on how to trade and I have stumbled amongst this curriculum but I don’t know if it is worth it. Please could you give me some feedback and advice as to whether it’s worth it?

Keep in mind that I live in South Africa so any curriculum needs to be relevant to my understanding.


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Mind telling me whY? You did look at it right?

<sigh>

Yes I did. In fairness, it doesn't look as bad as many, but those things are almost always a waste of money. Nobody will teach you to trade profitably, you need to research it yourself. EVERYTHING (let me repeat EVERYTHING) that you need is available for free on sites like this and forex factory.

Start by exhausting those - lots of people like the James16 thread, and it is a good jumping off point.

Then read a few books, again they're all obvious, like Reminiscences, Pring on Price, etc. You should buy them, but if you want they're all available to steal on the internet.

In this time you should be practising on demo, or at most with very small stakes. If you absolutely must pay money to learn, join an education group, don't buy a system. They can be helpful.

But what will really do it is learning and experience, and that will take time spent getting your hands dirty. Long, boring hours reading, watching charts, trading with pretend money, trading with peanuts, thinking. Trading cannot be mastered on a course, and no-one will sell you a winning system.

If you want some pointers, focus your efforts on learning:

What markets really are - buying and selling. Try to think what this really means, and why it is significant.

Support and resistance, the relationship between them, and why they alternate very reliably.

Price action.

Patience.

Stacking the odds in your favour with multiple layers of supporting factors.

Money management.

When you've done all that, go back and think about that course again. You'll p1ss yourself laughing at the mere thought of it.
 
Thank you! :D
Thats exactly the kinda response i was looking for! :)

No problem.

You are developing a skill. There is no magic formula or system - the way you trade will be unique to you, it will be a skill set that you develop. The simplest and commonest tools (like support and resistance) are all you need in technical terms.

The fact is this. If you want to even have a shot at any success, you have got a long, hard, lonely road in front of you. You will fail many times, and want to give up many times. You just have to decide whether you want to start walking that road with several thousand ZAR still in your pocket, or without it.

Good luck.
 
you seem really clued up. pls will you answer this?

Graduate Programme

I am a second year student at the University of Pretoria Looking to make sure that I get in for the graduate programme by the end of my studies.

Is there anything I could do to improve my chances of getting in? Example: joining a public speaking club or doing a certain additional course (not degree).

Ps: (for equity and derivatives trading (prop trader))

Any help will be much appreciated
 
What the hell, have a look at this to get you started. This is how I trade.

Not all the time, this is just an example of a number of factors coming together to shift the odds in my favour.

I took this trade yesterday and it's about as simple and as easy a trade as you're ever likely to see.

This is NQ (Nasdaq futures contract) - or rather, a spread betting company's version, but this one is fine in my opinion. You pay a spread obviously, but I haven't seen any funny business.

OK, first thing, the daily trend is up. You can't see it, but it is. Not that it makes much difference on a 5 minute chart, but it's nice to have the wind at your back.

Look at the long white candle marked with the green arrow. See where it is, sitting on top of a nice big round number? These numbers are important, believe it or not, and I like to trade away from them.

Now see how the number (2300) was holding price down (resistance), but price eventually popped through it? Why was it holding price down? Because people were selling when it got near it. How did price make it through? Because for some reason buying became stronger. We KNOW that there must have been buying there, otherwise price could not have gone higher.

Now price goes through, and starts drifting down to the old (broken) resistance? There was buying there - what if there still is? Price is going to rise again. So the old resistance becomes new support (sometimes called a pivot zone). At a round number. There's a floor trader pivot there as well (google it). This is the kind of area I want to trade at.

Now look at that whole massive range of little candles, doing nothing. Then see our trigger candle. It's huge. It takes out the whole range, testing below (only slightly, but still) and breaking above. Look how it closes - right at the top. It closes above the range. It's strong.

I add a thin buffer and half the spread to the high of the candle and buy when it breaks. My stop goes where the market tells me I was wrong - in this case below the low of the candle, which is also below the range, below the round number, below the pivot, below support. If price goes through that lot, I do not want to be long, so that's where my stop goes to start with.

You trail up reducing your risk sensibly. After a bit you move your stop to breakeven. This market often trends really well during the day, so I just leave it there. Close out towards the end of the day.

I doubt many people could show you a cleaner, easier, simpler trade this year.

Now, you wait patiently for trades like this (by which I mean that are this clear, this obvious, not that necessarily look like this). Watching 4 or 5 markets, you might get a couple or 3 a week, looking at say 5 and 15 minute charts. The hit rate is incredibly high, unless you decide to f*** up on purpose and don't wait for the really obvious ones like this. Then you'll go back and forth, making a bit, losing a bit.

If you wait, take these when they come, build your account, and don't p1ss your profits away on third rate trades, you'll make a lot of money.

All I'm doing here is using support and resistance and a price action trigger. I've drawn one line on my chart.

If you want to ask anything, go ahead. You and others might think it's a load of rubbish - fair enough if so. But whatever you do, you must learn for yourself, you must develop your own skills. Nobody can teach you how to trade.

By the way, nobody's perfect. I didn't quite hang on until the perfect exit point, I closed a little earlier. In fairness, I can't predict the future, so I didn't know that the perfect exit was coming along yesterday. Still I caught most of the move.

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you seem really clued up. pls will you answer this?

Graduate Programme

I am a second year student at the University of Pretoria Looking to make sure that I get in for the graduate programme by the end of my studies.

Is there anything I could do to improve my chances of getting in? Example: joining a public speaking club or doing a certain additional course (not degree).

Ps: (for equity and derivatives trading (prop trader))

Any help will be much appreciated

I haven't got a clue. Ask this question on it's own in the career section.
 
Trading futures has become quite popular in many markets, especially in day trading. These kinds of trades offer a wide variety of markets and it can be traded at a low cost.
 
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