E-Mini SP 500

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Old Sep 26, 2007, 7:03pm   #61
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volatility fan, but energy just is coming from positional biases being wiped out. The last move, should continue.(downward) Stubborn exiters will propel the market down.
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Old Sep 26, 2007, 7:12pm   #62
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Xymox started this thread floor traders/pit traders in this situation can press the market...a lot of retail still didn't exit, the move was too swift.
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Old Sep 26, 2007, 7:17pm   #63
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Xymox started this thread price reverts close to the 80 as soon as support or perceived support is hit, gives time for another trade placement on a retrace.
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Old Sep 26, 2007, 7:20pm   #64
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Xymox started this thread short 33.50 SL 41 TP EOD or 26

I try to keep R:R 1:1 and adjust position size.
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Old Sep 26, 2007, 7:30pm   #65
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Xymox started this thread SL mod..35...this SL shouldn't hit if the trade is still good.
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Old Sep 26, 2007, 7:32pm   #66
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Xymox started this thread see how the MA's approach each other.
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Old Sep 26, 2007, 7:35pm   #67
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Xymox started this thread bond market.. acting favorably...had a good auction today. Should press equities down.
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Old Sep 26, 2007, 7:45pm   #68
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Xymox started this thread with enough mental energy see how close the MA's get.

edit: closed out the trade for commission losses. That last tick move should have been downward.
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Old Sep 26, 2007, 7:52pm   #69
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Xymox started this thread basically its a'forced trade' in the market place, contagion/scarcity heuristics battling it out. Usually money is made easier then that, and nothing should be forced when enough volatility has persistance.

I don't mind scratching trades, when the tics don't move as implied.
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Old Sep 26, 2007, 7:58pm   #70
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Xymox started this thread see the last tic move just now would have stopped me out, when you don't see what you want, why stay in the market? Its a mistake traders make, trying to force or wish or hope something happens.

bonds giving up some gains now.
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Old Sep 26, 2007, 8:05pm   #71
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I have ben there and done that!
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Old Sep 26, 2007, 8:06pm   #72
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Xymox started this thread there is also a 'heartbeat' of confirmation to the trade. Once a trade is placed, there is a predefined time that a trader inately senses, would be the cutting point. Its similar to time stop, but on a second to minute basis.
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Old Sep 26, 2007, 8:09pm   #73
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Xymox started this thread 35.50...the other question becomes, if I didn't see what I wanted to see with my position bias, why not flip the trade and position bias?...

somedays you can.

37.25, see how easier it was for the market to move up, instead of down. If I didn't cut the SL from 41 to 35, and then scratched the trade, I would be looking at a greater possible point loss on the SL, even though position size was adjusted for the wider stop.
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Old Sep 26, 2007, 8:16pm   #74
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Xymox started this thread 38.25

explosive chart pattern. Implies retest of recent highs of 52.
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Old Sep 26, 2007, 8:16pm   #75
 
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Volatility Channel

So far, today has traced out your volatility channel template perfectly.
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