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Old Apr 26, 2010, 3:33pm   #16
 
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Hi Paul,

Sorry, I see what you were getting at now. Whilst I understand your point of view, I think that the right not to vote is every bit as important as the right to vote - there has been talk in recent years of making it compulsory. I think this is typical of the modern political class - low turnouts are to be solved not through policies that appeal to the electorate, but rather via coercion.

I think as I have said that there is nothing of substance to separate the main parties, and that voting for whoever one deems to be the leat worst simply perpetuates the problem of a grubby, self-interested political class that has nothing to offer the country.

I think that the Tories are on the verge of collapse, and would struggle to survive another defeat. This would be a good thing as it would clear the way for a genuinely conservative alternative. I also think that the spectre of the Tory party is what gives ZaNu Liebour much of its strength - remove this, and it too could be in serious trouble.

I'm hoping for a low turnout to underline the lack of legitimacy of whichever rabble slithers over the finish line first.
There should be an official "None of the Above" option, or failing that:-

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Old Apr 26, 2010, 3:41pm   #17
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Maybe a shake-up is needed amongst the apathetic.
I have been musing over whether to vote BNP this time around.
Much lulz to be had.
The problem with this is that the BNP has gone beyond being a nasty joke - they polled over a million votes at the last election.

I was looking at the various leaflets that deluded persons put through my letter box (oh for the days of moats and burning oil!) and of all of them, the only one that came remotely close to addressing any of the concerns of people round here was that left by the BNP. You increasingly hear people speaking favourably of their policies. Most of the others seemed to be mainly exercised by "climate change".

Now I would say that the BNP is a vicious and nasty racist organisation. However, thanks to one of the stupidist decisions of recent times, this is now only my opinion and not a demonstrable fact. The idiocy of forcing this unpleasant bunch to ammend their loathesome constitution has robbed us of the best argument against them.

They are approaching a breakthrough point in terms of respectability. I suspect that many of the people who voted for them did not know how explicitly racist they are - and as I say, the primary piece of evidence for this has now been destroyed. I think that the danger is that many people will now feel able to vote for them - and admit doing so - where they would not before. This could open the floodgates in certain areas of the country which feel completely abandoned by the main parties.

It is wrong to dismiss them as a mindless bunch of thugs - Nick Griffin is a very clever man who done extremely well in transforming the image of his party, for all the help he's had from Labour and the Tories.

I think that the BNP are genuinely dangerous and that a vote for them is even worse than a vote for the Tories.
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Old Apr 26, 2010, 5:37pm   #18
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It is mostly disaffected traditional Labour voters that are turning to the BNP.


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Old Apr 26, 2010, 6:12pm   #19
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It is mostly disaffected traditional Labour voters that are turning to the BNP.


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You misunderstand me - the source of the BNP's growing support is well known. I merely wished to suggest, in reply to another post, that there are two actively bad votes in this election, Tory and BNP. Any others are bad but do not matter, as we will have the same government regardless of whether it's Tory, Labour or Limp Dump, or some unholy diarrhoea of all three.
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Old Apr 28, 2010, 1:14pm   #20
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How to encourage people to vote Conservative


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...10/8649012.stm
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Old Apr 28, 2010, 1:15pm   #21
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Ha Ha Ha Brown completely fks it up in Rochdale .....Almost certainly the moment where he loses the election.

Real people expressing real concerns.

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Old Apr 28, 2010, 1:18pm   #22
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I always knew that Haggis Boy was a cnut.
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Old Apr 28, 2010, 3:53pm   #23
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I always knew that Haggis Boy was a cnut.
"Haggis Boy"? You racialismist.

Your vile, hate-filled post has been reported. It's time to root out bigots like you - go back to the 1950s, you bigot.

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Old Apr 28, 2010, 3:57pm   #24
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Yeah, I agree with you maiden22, I am a disgrace.

But Haggis Boy is still a cnut.
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Old Apr 28, 2010, 5:47pm   #25
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...10/8649853.stm

The bastar*d is mortified is he ?

Lying bastar*d, he doesn't give a sh1t, he thinks we are all cnuts.

Hope he F's OAD's.
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Old Apr 28, 2010, 6:52pm   #26
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Some time later.

Then he went back to her house .....made sure she got the message as she seemed totally confused by what he said originally !

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Old Apr 29, 2010, 1:35pm   #27
 
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Pat494 started this thread Obviously ALL politicians should be wired up permantly



we the great unwashed and semi literati want to know all your inner thoughts Mao er I mean Gordie
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Old Apr 29, 2010, 2:07pm   #28
 
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maybe the woman WAS a bigot?

everyone seems to think their opinion has value, no matter how stupid, or devoid of intellectual rigour.
we need to resurrect the notion of people "knowing their place".
if you leave school incapable of reading or writing, you should lose the right to vote or have an opinion.
people should be capable of proving their opinion, including the original source of the idea, backed by facts.

these plebs think they have an opinion. truth is, they are merely re-iterating something they "read" in a tabloid, or heard from "some bloke dahn the pub".
ask them to follow through their "logic", and they would end up contradicting themselves.

if there were an intelligence test before voting, we could eliminate chavs and idiots.
put them in their place, and get them to "earn" the right to have an opinion.

I feel sorry for these politicians, having to dumb-down complex issues into simple things these morons can understand. in addition to which, everyone has lost the concept of having principles that benefit society without necessarily benefiting them specifically, being as they are, totally self-obsessed about how these politicians will make them better off.

we could start be sterilizing any woman caught reading ""Hello" magazine, or with names Chantelle or Chardonnay.
Any man wearing a baseball cap should be shot on sight. Or anyone who says "wicked" to anything or flicks their fingers as a gesture of acknowledgement.

there. thats my manifesto.

I would like the politicians call more voters "idiots", "morons" and "bigots". Why suck up to these losers?
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You have my vote for the "trendie" party.
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Old Apr 29, 2010, 5:29pm   #30
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This article examines the question in depth:

WORD 'BIGOT' LOSES ALL MEANING
29-04-10

THE word 'bigot', introduced into the English language in the late 16th Century, lost all meaning shorty after 11pm last night, it has been confirmed.

Word managers at the Oxford English Dictionary said 'bigot' became officially meaningless when the one millionth person on Twitter used it to describe an old lady from Rochdale who used the word 'immigrants'.

Tom Logan, the OED's deputy director of A to C, said: "Meaning-wise, 'bigot' has been on shaky ground for quite some time and, like most bad things, it's entirely the fault of The Guardian.

"Guardian readers think anyone who doesn't love The Wire is a bigot. They think anyone who hasn't had an interesting experience in a two-star hotel in Ho Chi Minh City is a bigot. They think anyone who doesn't like Greco-Javanese fusion food is a bigot.

"Meanwhile, anyone who hasn't read a book about the right-wing media conspiracy against Hezbollah is the absolute worst kind of bigot and of course they now think I'm an appalling bigot for pointing that out.

"But perhaps most damning of all is that these are the sort of twisted, ruined people who will endure at least 15 minutes of The Kumars at Number 42 simply to prove that everyone else is intellectually evil."

Meanwhile, Professor Henry Brubaker of the Institute for Studies, stressed the use of the word 'immigrants' by 66 year-old grandmother Gillian Duffy would have been bigoted it had been followed by 'are not nice people', but it wasn't.

"Mrs Duffy said 'You can't say anything about immigrants... all these eastern Europeans are coming in, where are they flocking from?'. So let's just examine that one section at a time.

"Now, the first bit is factually correct. You can't say anything about immigrants and I'm fairly confident that we all understand that now.

"The second bit is a little tricky because it does seem to answer its own question - which Guardian readers have pointed out many, many, many times. But of course what she really meant was 'I'm just a normal old lady and I don't really know why any of this is happening'.

"But Guardian readers should continue to patronise her anyway because that just impresses the grade-A s***e out of everyone."

Tom Logan added: "The really wonderful thing is that the original meaning of bigot was 'sanctimonious hypocrite', so in the next edition of the Oxford English Dictionary we're going to go back to our etymological roots and adjacent to the word 'bigot' it will simply say 'noun - a reader of The Guardian'.

"F***ers."
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