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Old Oct 21, 2009, 9:52am   #1
 
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Old Oct 21, 2009, 10:36am   #2
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And look where voting Labour got us all !
Time for a different bunch of self-interested charlatans to rule us incompetently
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And look where voting Labour got us all !
Time for a different bunch of self-interested charlatans to rule us incompetently
Time for a complete reform of Parliament for a kick-off. Yesterday's article by Geoffrey Wheatcroft in the Grauniad was a good start:

Now more than ever, Britain needs the last Chartist reform | Geoffrey Wheatcroft | Comment is free | The Guardian

To which I would add: an (annually) elected upper house based on non-party lines.
Election/party spending/donations of all types severely curtailed.

Whips' offices emasculated (in a metaphorical sense, but literally would be fine in addition).
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To which I would add: an (annually) elected upper house based on non-party lines.
Nothing would ever get done or agreed if this was the case in my view.


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In my oinion any reform of the house of lords is motivated by anti class socialist principles.
Reform is only likely to result in a copy of the commons so there is not much point that I can see exceptto take away what is seen by some as 'privilege'.
If some focus was shifted from class principals and put on the benefits derived from tthe HoL, and the contributions made by many of its members (not all I know, and especially not unelected ministers) to various specialist fields, then I think there's be a better appreciation of it. Also, despite the expenses fiasco we get the HoL on the cheap.
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Old Oct 21, 2009, 12:26pm   #7
 
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As for voting Labour ---well they like minorities so as thats what Labour voters will become, you'll be well in with them.
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Old Oct 21, 2009, 12:28pm   #8
 
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"To which I would add: an (annually) elected upper house based on non-party lines. "

I would imagine the electoral turnout for an annually elected "upper" house would be under 10%.

Better to concentrate on a system where the "retirement" of the government party leader, i.e.the Prime MInister, had to be followed by a general election within three months.
Otherwise we could end up with an unelected and unstable incompetent PM who cannot be removed and with zero legitimacy, even when compared with Karzai............someone who in the depths of his insanity and megalomania thinks he has saved the world from financial melt-down......and will soon turn back climate change single-handedly.........
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