This is a discussion on Bush's concocted Iran "Threat" Debunked within the The Foyer forums, part of the T2W Community category; Thanks BSD for the Cheney link.
This administration first lied about Iraq and waged war. Then they tried to hide ...
This administration first lied about Iraq and waged war. Then they tried to hide the truth in order to wage another confrontation. And they, of all people, have the nerve to say that a nuclear Iran is a threat to world peace and security. Incredible.
And they, of all people, have the nerve to say that a nuclear Iran is a threat to world peace and security. Incredible.
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I have yet to see a statement on an issue of greater importance than Bush's twins come out of his White House that does not tick all necessary boxes to count as a full fledged member of the renowned school of Spin Doctored, Fact Fabricating DoubleSpeak.
No wonder the US is seen as the 'biggest global peace threat' internationally, what with Bush having squandered all the immense goodwill the US rightly received after 9-11 from all over the world, including Muslim countries just as disgusted by the attacks as the rest of us, with Dubya's subsequent entirely unwarranted wars of aggression.
Thing to differentiate between tho is Bush & his merry NeoCons on the one hand, and a majority of US Americans on the other that are just as sick and tired of him and his backfiring toxic policies as the rest of us.
I have quite a few American friends who see things exactly like us.
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I need to make one hundred million Euros pretty fast. You know how it is. There are bills to pay.
But notice that they (CIA and their mates) are still claiming that Iran did have a nuclear weapons program up until 2003 when they stopped it. The argument will now be put forward that the war on Iraq was a success because it put the frighteners on Iran and made them stop their nuclear weapons program.
What about Irans defense contracts with Russia and allies? why should Iran worry about US? wont Russia Back Iran?
why the hell am I using capital letters in some places... too many drugs...
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Well it's 5 years on almost since BDV started this thread. Sadly he hasn't been around for a while.
The " experts " seem to agree currently that Iran is getting as close as they can legally under the existing rules, to building a bomb. Then it's only a short skip and a jump to having one and tipping a missile which is now near ballistic capability.
Why oh why do they squander the country's resources to build a weapon that will probably never be used. Macho posturing by lunatics or what ?
Scrapping nukes is not going to happen. Pandora got out of that box in 1945. Soon, terrorists will be using it, or threatening to.
If a citizen can go into a cinema in Colorado and kill and maim all those people, with the same scenario in Bulgaria (?) last week and Norway, last year, what chance is there of preventing a terrorist attack?
Forget the bombs, how about poisoning the water supply?
Scrapping nukes is not going to happen. Pandora got out of that box in 1945. Soon, terrorists will be using it, or threatening to.
If a citizen can go into a cinema in Colorado and kill and maim all those people, with the same scenario in Bulgaria (?) last week and Norway, last year, what chance is there of preventing a terrorist attack?
Forget the bombs, how about poisoning the water supply?
Perhaps subconsciously the murderers are trying to solve the over population problem ? I suppose it will get ever more critical until it affects the richer countries ( they artfully forget they are really bankrupt ). Then what ? I will be long gone but a generation or two and bingo ! They will wish the Catholic church and others had had more foresight and fewer impracticle morals.
In any case, it is ludicrous to consider that any country should not be allowed to develope nuclear power which, in its turn, would lead to nuclear weapons if that country wished.
This genie was let out of the box in 1945 and no one is going to be able to put it back.
It is something with which the world will have to live, in much the same way as the Pope will have to live with contraception and abortions and the muslims with womens' liberation. That's the way things are.
Let's be philosophical and hope that we will survive it.
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I see you had an opinion back in 2007. Have things changed for the better in your view ?
Or has democracy failed in this important department too ?