Brexit and the Consequences

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Old Jul 24, 2016, 11:39pm   #41
 
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Posturing. They both have elections coming up. Hollande needn't bother cos he will be out anyway, but Merkel has all to play for. Her problem of course is to appear tough and uncompromising to the German electorate and the Brussels machine, but business are the paymasters, so whatever they decide is needed will be the order.

Our strength is in taking an uncompromising stance on this free movement issue. The EU needs to be under no illusion, that because we are more efficient and have more flexibility re labour laws, that the rest of the EU needs to get it's own house in order, before trying to lay the law down and lecture us. We should not be the scapegoat of the EU, whereby they get to export their unemployment problem to the UK.

Difference of opinion here CV. Increase in population and migrant labour drives growth and GDP. In fact so much so that even Sweden has started doing so and there were press articles written so.

Hear what you saying about posturing pre-negotiations and sounding out the opposition. It's all very basic and non-engaging at the moment.

There mixed soundbites coming from Mr Schauble the German Finance Minister. He is one to watch. He is bad cop. Merkel good cop.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...-global-agenda
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Old Jul 25, 2016, 12:07am   #42
 
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The immigration problem in Sweden has made the Swedish Democrats one of the most popular parties there. For those of you that do not know, they are the right-wing anti-immigrant party. In some polls they are slightly ahead of the Social Democratic Party (the leader for quite some time prior to the refugee crisis) and in some polls they are slightly behind.
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Old Jul 25, 2016, 1:08am   #43
 
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Atilla started this thread People vote with their hearts and not with their heads.

When it comes to capitalism and number crunching the boot is on the other foot. People put away their hearts and conscience and simply count the pennies.

Either way, there is a debt crises with an aging birth rate and rising tax burden. Solution is one of two headed evil dragon (inflation & migration as potential solutions) that's looking to consume hearts and minds. Alternatively, raise taxes to pay off debt.

I make no apologies for selective articles to make point.

http://www.thelocal.se/20151116/refu...wedish-economy

https://www.theguardian.com/business...economic-boost

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/28/refug...vici-says.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6722396.html
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Old Jul 26, 2016, 7:59am   #44
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Old Jul 26, 2016, 10:56am   #45
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People vote with their hearts and not with their heads.

When it comes to capitalism and number crunching the boot is on the other foot. People put away their hearts and conscience and simply count the pennies.

Either way, there is a debt crises with an aging birth rate and rising tax burden. Solution is one of two headed evil dragon (inflation & migration as potential solutions) that's looking to consume hearts and minds. Alternatively, raise taxes to pay off debt.

I make no apologies for selective articles to make point.

http://www.thelocal.se/20151116/refu...wedish-economy

https://www.theguardian.com/business...economic-boost

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/28/refug...vici-says.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6722396.html
Your "no apologies for grim reading" comment has put me off reading those articles!

I'll take your word for them.
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Old Jul 26, 2016, 11:00am   #46
 
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Atilla started this thread Brexit’s Biggest Fans Face New 115 Billion-Pound Pension Hole

Nice move that saving £350m a week.

Be interesting to see and hear how Brexiters work this one out. It's not about the money, I know but wait till they start freezing to death in the middle of winter, saving pennies on fuel prices which will have risen due to fall in pound along with dwindling NHS resources and then come back and say it's not about the money.

Not good at all.
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. . . Not good at all.
Yeah, but looking on the bright side, if it means we can buy funny shaped bananas and cucumbers that don't comply with EU regulation length and girth - it'll be worth it.
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Old Jul 26, 2016, 11:31am   #48
 
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Yeah, but looking on the bright side, if it means we can buy funny shaped bananas and cucumbers that don't comply with EU regulation length and girth - it'll be worth it.
Can't imagine you with a funny shaped banana Tim, but what ever floats your boat
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