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Old Oct 4, 2017, 11:14am   #61
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Who was the last capable PM or Minister in this country?
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War PM but understood the truth
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Putin very much the same, very clever guy
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Putin very much the same, very clever guy
Not a nice moderate man imho. His political opponents have an unfortunate habit of getting murdered.
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Not a nice moderate man imho. His political opponents have an unfortunate habit of getting murdered.
Well, who said life was fair? No worse than anyone else. And very clever. Strange things happened on 911.
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I was working in the city that week. A bad week.
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So, Theresa May says she's sorry!

Fat lot of good that is – we need someone who can get a grip and sort things out, and she's not it.

In any non-government organisation where a person holds a very responsible position, the normal procedure when somebody shows that they are inadequate or not up to the job is to get rid of them. The politicians will never learn from those who know how to do it. Starting to look like an open goal for Corbyn. Heaven help us!
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So, Theresa May says she's sorry!

Fat lot of good that is – we need someone who can get a grip and sort things out, and she's not it.

In any non-government organisation where a person holds a very responsible position, the normal procedure when somebody shows that they are inadequate or not up to the job is to get rid of them. The politicians will never learn from those who know how to do it. Starting to look like an open goal for Corbyn. Heaven help us!
Agree. So what do we do?
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Believe me, 911 did not happen as Fox told it. I was in the street and heard noises that were not just buildings collapsing.
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Agree. So what do we do?
Wish I knew!

My Conservative MP is a May yes-man – so a complete waste of time in talking to him.

The Conservative party Elders don't seem to understand what's happening now even though they can recognise Corbyn as the bogeyman. They don't get it that the under 40s didn't live through the three-day week of the 70s (and all the socialist rest of it) and don't understand what a dose of Corbynism will do to them. They need to talk to the under 40s but until they are seen to have any credibility they will be wasting their time.

The Conservatives missed being kicked out of government by a hair's breadth: a few weeks more campaigning from Corbyn during the general election would have given him the keys to number 10. I cannot for the life of me understand why the Conservatives do not understand the precariousness of their position.

For anything to happen any of the following would help:

1. UKIP gets its act together and once more frightens the $hit out of the Conservatives and prompts them into action.

2. Boris/Davies/Fox/Mogg put the boot in.

3. May comes to her senses and realises that she is not up to it – it's about time Philip took her on one side and gave her a talking-to. (She hasn't even got the sense to realise that she needs to sack Boris just to show who's in charge.)

4. The EU Politbureau finally implodes and solves the Brexit problem for us – though I don't suppose it will happen in time to save us from Corbyn and anyway, the EU won't go down without a fight.

I live in hope that as has so often happened in British politics, that someone or some event steps in and changes things. Churchill had to do it in 1939 and Thatcher in 1979.
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Old Oct 4, 2017, 5:44pm   #71
 
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Seems like I'm not the only one unimpressed:

Adam Smith Institute
Executive Director Sam Bowman said:

“It’s tempting to laugh at today’s speech but really it was quite sad. The Tories seem to have no idea what to do about housing, because they’re so afraid of alienating their base that they won’t do any substantive policy that could properly boost the supply of new homes. Again and again this week people asked how to connect with younger voters – the simple answer is to give them somewhere to live… Planning is the huge bottleneck here that is stopping millions of new houses from being built privately and affordably, and if the Conservatives are going to bury their heads in the sand about that then eventually voters will punish them for it.”


Institute of Directors:
Stephen Martin, Director General, said:

“You have a Conservative Party which talks about the importance of markets, but then tinkers around with help to buy and energy price caps. What are business leaders meant to make of it all? At this pivotal moment in this country’s history, far too little time has been spent explaining the plan for how we leave the European Union, or debating how we tackle the long-term challenges that face our economy. We have had positive messages on the importance of skills, and more funding for transport in the North, but we need to see serious proposals at the Budget to boost what is now wavering confidence in the wider economy.”


TaxPayers’ Alliance
John O’Connell, Chief Executive said:

“Despite claiming to be the ‘party of low taxes’, the current government plans to increase the tax burden to levels unseen since the 1960s. If the government is serious about solving the housing crisis then it needs to take on vested interests and NIMBYs, but sadly there’s little sign that that they have the courage to do so. The Prime Minister is right that families are struggling to cope with the rise in energy bills, and this is due to green taxes and subsidies. Instead of intervening in the market, the Government should stand up to the green lobby and slash unnecessary taxes and subsidies that artificially inflate the cost of energy for families.”


Institute of Economic Affairs:
Mark Littlewood, Director General, said:

“The Prime Minister’s encouraging rhetoric was followed up with the wrong policies… we have heard from leading Conservatives this week how free market capitalism is so beneficial. But we haven’t heard a single coherent policy that would make the UK a more free market economy. Rather we’ve had a string of announcements about how the Tories wish to place greater power in the hands of the state. May’s comments about being a supporter of free markets should at best be taken with a pinch of salt, but at worse look to be untrue.”
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Nice summary sminicooper.

I think I posted months ago that Theresa May appears to be potentially a competent office manager. But that's all.
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Pat494 started this thread The UK is only a small country when it comes to land area. While the really big countries with wide open spaces refuse to have their quota of refugees.
A leader of strength would cut the immigrants down to zero. Only tourists, paying students, essential workers should be allowed in and that on a strictly temporary basis.
Tough decisions need to be taken. There are 100s of millions of disadvantaged people around the world. They can't all come here.
The do gooders and Blairites say they should but it is clearly impractical.
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The UK is only a small country when it comes to land area. While the really big countries with wide open spaces refuse to have their quota of refugees.
A leader of strength would cut the immigrants down to zero. Only tourists, paying students, essential workers should be allowed in and that on a strictly temporary basis.
Tough decisions need to be taken. There are 100s of millions of disadvantaged people around the world. They can't all come here.
The do gooders and Blairites say they should but it is clearly impractical.
Refugees are just symptoms of a problem. When the problem is tackled/solved so will be the refugee problem – but that's just wishful thinking isn't it? And of course it's easy to blame the politicians for not tackling it – but if these problems were that simple they would have been solved years ago. You're dealing with people and therefore there will always be problems.

As far as space in the UK goes: there's actually plenty of space but it's all in the wrong places where nobody wants to be. And I don't know of a good way of dealing with NIMBYism. I suspect if we did what they did after World War II with the housing shortage – prefabs – which were actually a darn sight better than some of the existing housing, we might get somewhere. I see the politicians are now referring to "modular" housing; is that a gentle introduction to flatpack kits for living in? There is a desperate shortage of housing in UK and it needs a really radical solution – pouring more money into the market via "help to buy" without increasing supply of houses will only push up prices – how does that help anybody apart from housebuilders?
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Refugees are just symptoms of a problem. When the problem is tackled/solved so will be the refugee problem – but that's just wishful thinking isn't it?
Depends on how one views what's necessary and what's likely.

If we are to survive, some sort of control must be exerted so that no country is so miserable that large numbers of inhabitants will go to any lengths to get out of it.

Is it likely that the conditions under which that sort of control will be possible will be implemented? No. At least not until things get far worse.
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