Why Germany Should Leave the Euro

Germany, To Exit or Not To Exit

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  • EU splits into north and south

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  • Germany stays

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hhiusa

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If Germany were to leave the euro, the euro would be the currency that falls in value, relative to Germany’s new national currency. Weaker European countries would get to keep their attachment to the euro but still get the devaluation they need, which in turn would reduce their labor costs far less painfully than through wage cuts. As a result, the value of their outstanding debt would decrease together with the value of the euro. These weaker countries would be more likely to be able to make payments on their debts, avoid default and also avoid the austerity measures imposed by Germany.

It has also been suggested that other rich countries in the EU would follow suits forming the northern EU.

Germexit now!
http://blog.ncm.net/2015/02/03/worried-about-a-grexit-what-about-a-germexit/
 
It has also been suggested that other rich countries in the EU would follow suits forming the northern EU.


Yes, this was my prediction, also the name of the new northern Euro currency which will be called the Neuro. Remember who told you first.
 
Why not the other northern richer countries leave the Euro - and go with the Great British Pound - I don't mind Germany using our currency - as long as it does not become a Portugal or a Spain - or even worse - another USA ( lol)

We can call it then the GWP - ie the Great World Pound
 
Why not the other northern richer countries leave the Euro - and go with the Great British Pound - I don't mind Germany using our currency - as long as it does not become a Portugal or a Spain - or even worse - another USA ( lol)

We can call it then the GWP - ie the Great World Pound

Nope, Germany is the richest country in Europe and as such it would be Germany that would leave to alleviate financial pressure upon poorer countries. It will be called the Bundesrepublik of northern Europe using the mark. North against the south, where have I heard that before. The south will lose of course.

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Not sure I agree with this report in full.

Ageing population yes but a weaker Euro will benefit their manufacturing base.


Seems rather ironic to me; on one hand we have a desire to keep the blood line pure and on the other, lack of desire to breed.


I wonder how Charles Darwin would have perceived this phenomenon?

I find it fascinating that countries in the south of Europe have much higher inbreeding than in the north.

Effects of inbreeding on the genetic diversity of populations.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1693193/
 
I find it fascinating that countries in the south of Europe have much higher inbreeding than in the north.

Effects of inbreeding on the genetic diversity of populations.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1693193/



I wasn't referring to inbreeding but birth rates.

How do you find the aging populations and falling birth rates of the Northern European countries including Germany?

Out of curiosity, how would you explain why Denmark, Finland and Sweden top the lists of physical and sexual violence against women in Europe?
 
I wasn't referring to inbreeding but birth rates.

How do you find the aging populations and falling birth rates of the Northern European countries including Germany?

Out of curiosity, how would you explain why Denmark, Finland and Sweden top the lists of physical and sexual violence against women in Europe?

I would rather have physical violence than murder. Inbreeding has to do with birth rates. The more inbreeding there is, will mutate the gene pool quicker, in many cases causing infertility, lower IQ (See WAIS-IV) and other birth defects. Look up fertility rates.

I would prefer to live in Sweden, Norway, Denmark or Germany over central and southern europe. The recitivism rates in scandinavia are 16% - some of the lowest in the world.

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I would rather have physical violence than murder. Inbreeding has to do with birth rates. The more inbreeding there is, will mutate the gene pool quicker, in many cases causing infertility, lower IQ (See WAIS-IV) and other birth defects. Look up fertility rates.

I would prefer to live in Sweden, Norway, Denmark or Germany over central and southern europe. The recitivism rates in scandinavia are 16% - some of the lowest in the world.

Epitome of perfection
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Oh come on! You being deliberately obtuse or what? Inbreeding has nothing to do with birth rates. Whether you breed with Chinese or Swedes birth rates are birth rates. They are absolute numbers of babies born.

You capiche?

What is wrong with your comprehension. I suggest you look at the definition of inbreeding. Look at it in as many languages as you want? Look it up in German or Swedish if it makes more sense to you? Please...

I'm afraid I only know English. I can use google translate if you let me know which bleeding language you'd like it in? (Oh dear, I've fouled the Queen's English. Sorry mi lady! )


I wasn't asking which country you wanted to live in mate. Your comprehension of the language is letting you down again. Perhaps it's me rushing.

Let me rephrase it;

I was expecting some genetic science on how you or one may explain Northern Europeans (your favoured culturally advanced countries) beating and sexually abusing women and you reply with some mamby bamby picture.



Nordic countries worst in EU for violence against women – survey

There are soooo many studies on violence against women in Sweden and they all tell the same story.

Sweden stands out in domestic violence study

Hate to ruin your perfect world Mr HHi but there you go...

Please let's have an educated and informed debate.

Perhaps you live under a bridge or something who knows???


By the way that guy in the picture looks like me when I was 20 something... AND my great great great ... grandfather was Chengiz Khan... (y)

Bet you have a bit of him in you too :cheesy:



Apologies as I have nothing against Nordic countries and did go out for a while with a lovely au pair from Finland too. Also planning a Nordic cruise sometime but string of cruise accidents made family shy from the idea. :eek:
 
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Oh come on! You being deliberately obtuse or what? Inbreeding has nothing to do with birth rates. Whether you breed with Chinese or Swedes birth rates are birth rates. They are absolute numbers of babies born.

Cite your sources if you think so.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1693193/

I have access to the journal. Let me know if you want to read further. It is British peer reviewed journal.
 
Cite your sources if you think so.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1693193/

I have access to the journal. Let me know if you want to read further. It is British peer reviewed journal.


1. You still have not answered the two questions

Question relate to birth rates and population growth

Forgive me if I don't understand, but are you suggesting the Spanish and Italians have copulated with African / Arabs and thus have a more advance population growth and better extended family structure or they have inbred with their own blood line and have handicapped children?

Cat got your tongue? Please help me understand your point.


2. You have not even attempted to explain domestic and sexual violence in the Nordic countries.

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Race and culture has a lot to do with it. If I am watching some event happen in Japan, it will most likely have a different effect upon the people culturally and they will react differently. This rule is especially important if you are trading foreign markets. The news of something happening in Japan will effect their market differently than if the same event happened in the U.S.. The same is true for all cultures, which stems from different people.

Understanding these cultural differences that arise over time is important even in business and finance. Imagine you are in a business meeting with Japanese people or have Japanese clients, you wouldn't traditionally buy someone a clock, give someone things in 4's or give anyone anthing white, etc.. Giving someone a clock is synonymous with death. Four sounds exactly the same as the word for "death" in Japanese and is bad luck. Giving someone something in white is associated with a funeral.

Sweeping these differences under the rug as if they don't exist will lead to problems as is usually the case in places with greater diversity. Norway, northern Germany, Sweden and parts of Switzerland have had very low inbreeding, which is why they tend to be very homogeneous. Homogeneity means less cultural strife as evidenced by Scandinavia's extremely low crime.

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I stated which country I want to live in to illustrate why I would still choose to live there in spite of the violence. It is more attractive to me than the south. It is pretty simple to search out genetics traits by country.

http://www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogroupsMaps.pdf

I traced my family tree exclusively back to the Kingfom of Kent in the 11th century and Sweorice (Sweden) 8th century.
 
I stated which country I want to live in to illustrate why I would still choose to live there in spite of the violence. It is more attractive to me than the south. It is pretty simple to search out genetics traits by country.

http://www.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogroupsMaps.pdf

I traced my family tree exclusively back to the Kingfom of Kent in the 11th century and Sweorice (Sweden) 8th century.


Ok thank you for your reply.

I've always wanted to trace my genetics too but not sure how. Are these companies that do DNA look-ups and traces have integral value? How does one collaborate, what they state as being factually correct and verifiable?

Be interested if you have good references.
 
Ok thank you for your reply.

I've always wanted to trace my genetics too but not sure how. Are these companies that do DNA look-ups and traces have integral value? How does one collaborate, what they state as being factually correct and verifiable?

Be interested if you have good references.

I think you might be misunderstanding the test. It is a complete genome sequencing test. The genome scan shows all 3.1 billion base pairs comprising the entire genome. Your genome is compared with a control genome from the Human Genome Project. A U.S. funded study to map the entire human genome, which was completed in 2003. There is no need to corroborate the results. Your results will be unique, which goes without saying.

This is the NCBI ftp server where you can download sample genome and gene data. The files are quite big. You can download free software such as DNA 2.0 or cytoscape to run your test if you know how.

There is a Y chromosome DNA haplogroup tree map for use as comparison. It shows specifically where your ancestors were from based upon the haplogroups they belong to. For instance haplogroup I1 is for Scandinavia. This is link to the Y-DNA Haplogroup I and its Subclades - 2015.
http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpI.html

Y-DNA Haplogroup Tree 2015
www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_YDNATreeTrunk.html

Click for higher resolution
World_Map_of_Y-DNA_Haplogroups.png


For instance the POMC.0001 is a variant primarily found in north western Europeans including England, Ireland and Scotland. The variant is responsible for red hair, freckles and pink undertones from low levels of eumelanin and high levels of phaeomelanin. Freckles are basically small accumulations of the melanin protein in melanocytes. All this is controlled by the POMC gene.

http://www.omim.org/entry/176830
 
I think you might be misunderstanding the test. It is a complete genome sequencing test. The genome scan shows all 3.1 billion base pairs comprising the entire genome. Your genome is compared with a control genome from the Human Genome Project. A U.S. funded study to map the entire human genome, which was completed in 2003. There is no need to corroborate the results. Your results will be unique, which goes without saying.

You might want to read this and see if you can get your money back:

http://www.theguardian.com/science/...-genetic-ancestry-charlemagne-adam-rutherford
 
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