Rules of dating

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Ive noticed alot of my girlfriends I talk to have rules of dating. Some woman think the man should pay for everything, some think only half, and others would rather pay for it all.

So my question is, when it comes to going on a date, do you think its the man who should pay for all of it? Or should it be 50/50?

And what is your rule of dating?

Ive always preferred to pay for everything. I dont know where it stems from, I guess im very independent and try to take the mans role in the relationship
 
i always pay for everything, my nose can't handle another pimp slap!
 
have a look at the women messageboards e.g handbag. its full of stuff like this.
 
I just smack ma bitch up and make her pay for everything. This is a step up from the Richard Keys and Andy Gray pussying around cr@p.

Listen to this as it gets you in the mood.

 
I don't think there should be set "rules" on dating. I think each situation is different. However, I do think that on the first, or first few, dates then guy should pay. Otherwise, it seems very situational - maybe it is a special ocassion and one or the other wants to treat each other for it. But then there are those times it may just be a casual date night out and it would be fine to split or switch off.
 
One school of thought, which I agree with is it costs a girl a lot more to put her show on the road, so the man must pay.

For example, say you've (a man) have a hot date tonight. What will you buy re clothes and general styling etc. Chances are nothing, you'll just open the door to your wardrobe and pick something which chances are is at least a year old. Plus you certainly won't get your hair cut or nails done etc. But she might spend a lot to look good.

Also, say the bar is 20 mins walk away but it's a bit windy and cold outside, and dark. No problem to walk is it but she'll have to get a taxi.

So by you picking up the tab you've still probably spent less than her. But if she wants to argue then that's the time you 'smack my bitch up'. Great, great song by the way. Look on the following clip on YoubTube when they played Red Square and see the sweat mist rising off the crowd, it's amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5trlioR8K8&feature=fvst
 
Rules are simple.

Pu$$y costs money, but d1ck is free.

We go 50:50, OK we do it her way. I pick up the whole tab, we're doing an4l an the first date.
 
Ive noticed alot of my girlfriends I talk to have rules of dating. Some woman think the man should pay for everything, some think only half, and others would rather pay for it all.

So my question is, when it comes to going on a date, do you think its the man who should pay for all of it? Or should it be 50/50?

And what is your rule of dating?

Ive always preferred to pay for everything. I dont know where it stems from, I guess im very independent and try to take the mans role in the relationship

This is a traders forum, we are supposed to make or lose 10K+ on each trade we do, 100K loss limits for the day etc, such trivial things (such as splitting a £200 date bill) are not supposed to concern us :LOL:
 
This is a traders forum, we are supposed to make or lose 10K+ on each trade we do, 100K loss limits for the day etc, such trivial things (such as splitting a £200 date bill) are not supposed to concern us :LOL:

Boll0cks. You pay, she spreads her cheeks. I'm a gentleman though - I leave a contribution on the dresser for lube.
 
In "Surely your'e joking Mr Feynman" (a book of short stories about the GREAT physicist Richard Feynman) there is a story about how he learned (was told) how to get women to sleep with him. Think the title is "You just ask them?". It was when he was spending alot of time with air hostesses and wasnt getting very far. Basically it goes on the theory that you do NOT pay for anything if you want them to fall all over you and sleep with you. Also in the end, you just ask them to. Worth a read.

It probably also helped that, (like me), he was, (I still am), very good looking and charismatic :cheesy:
 
here it is (thanks to my incredible typing skills and photographic memory!)

You Just Ask Them?

When I was first at Cornell I corresponded with a girl I had met in New
Mexico while I was working on the bomb. I got to thinking, when she
mentioned some other fella she knew, that I had better go out there quickly
at the end of the school year and try to save the situation. But when I got
out there, I found it was too late, so I ended up in a motel in Albuquerque
with a free summer and nothing to do.
The Casa Grande Motel was on Route 66, the main highway through town.
About three places further down the road there was a little nightclub that
had entertainment. Since I had nothing to do, and since I enjoyed watching
and meeting people in bars, I very often went to this nightclub.
When I first went there I was talking with some guy at the bar, and we
noticed a whole table full of nice young ladies -- TWA hostesses, I think
they were --who were having some sort of birthday party. The other guy said,
"Come on, let's get up our nerve and ask them to dance."
So we asked two of them to dance, and afterwards they invited us to sit
with the other girls at the table. After a few drinks, the waiter came
around: "Anybody want anything?"
I liked to imitate being drunk, so although I was completely sober, I
turned to the girl I'd been dancing with and asked her in a drunken voice,
"YaWANanything?"
"What can we have?" she asks.
"Annnnnnnnnnnnything you want -- ANYTHING!"
"All right! We'll have champagne!" she says happily.
So I say in a loud voice that everybody in the bar can hear, "OK!
Ch-ch-champagne for evvverybody!"
Then I hear my friend talking to my girl, saying what a dirty trick it
is to "take all that dough from him because he's drunk," and I'm beginning
to think maybe I made a mistake.
Well, nicely enough, the waiter comes over to me, leans down, and says
in a low voice, "Sir, that's sixteen dollars a bottle."
I decide to drop the idea of champagne for everybody, so I say in an
even louder voice than before, "NEVER MIND!"
I was therefore quite surprised when, a few moments later, the waiter
came back to the table with all his fancy stuff -- a white towel over his
arm, a tray full of glasses, an ice bucket full of ice, and a bottle of
champagne. He thought I meant, "Never mind the price," when I meant, "Never
mind the champagne!"
The waiter served champagne to everybody, I paid out the sixteen
dollars, and my friend was mad at my girl because he thought she had got me
to pay all this dough. But as far as I was concerned, that was the end of it
-- though it turned out later to be the beginning of a new adventure.
I went to that nightclub quite often and as the weeks went by, the
entertainment changed. The performers were on a circuit that went through
Amarillo and a lot of other places in Texas, and God knows where else. There
was also a permanent singer who was at the nightclub, whose name was Tamara.
Every time a new group of performers came to the club, Tamara would
introduce me to one of the girls from the group. The girl would come and sit
down with me at my table, I would buy her a drink, and we'd talk. Of course
I would have liked to do more than just talk, but there was always something
the matter at the last minute. So I could never understand why Tamara always
went to the trouble of introducing me to all these nice girls, and then,
even though things would start out all right, I would always end up buying
drinks, spending the evening talking, but that was it. My friend, who didn't
have the advantage of Tamara's introductions, wasn't getting anywhere either
-- we were both clunks.
After a few weeks of different shows and different girls, a new show
came, and as usual Tamara introduced me to a girl from the group, and we
went through the usual thing -- I'm buying her drinks, we're talking, and
she's being very nice. She went and did her show, and afterwards she came
back to me at my table, and I felt pretty good. People would look around and
think, "What's he got that makes this girl come to him?"
But then, at some stage near the close of the evening, she said
something that by this time I had heard many times before: "I'd like to have
you come over to my room tonight, but we're having a party, so perhaps
tomorrow night..." -- and I knew what this "perhaps tomorrow night" meant:
NOTHING.
Well, I noticed throughout the evening that this girl -- her name was
Gloria -- talked quite often with the master of ceremonies, during the show,
and on her way to and from the ladies' room. So one time, when she was in
the ladies' room and the master of ceremonies happened to be walking near my
table, I impulsively took a guess and said to him, "Your wife is a very nice
woman."
He said, "Yes, thank you," and we started to talk a little. He figured
she had told me. And when Gloria returned, she figured he had told me. So
they both talked to me a little bit, and invited me to go over to their
place that night after the bar closed.
At two o'clock in the morning I went over to their motel with them.
There wasn't any party, of course, and we talked a long time. They showed me
a photo album with pictures of Gloria when her husband first met her in
Iowa, a cornfed, rather fattish-looking woman; then other pictures of her as
she reduced, and now she looked really nifty! He had taught her all kinds of
stuff, but he couldn't read or write, which was especially interesting
because he had the job, as master of ceremonies, of reading the names of the
acts and the performers who were in the amateur contest, and I hadn't even
noticed that he couldn't read what he was "reading"! (The next night I saw
what they did. While she was bringing a person on or off the stage, she
glanced at the slip of paper in his hand and whispered the names of the next
performers and the title of the act to him as she went by.)
They were a very interesting, friendly couple, and we had many
interesting conversations. I recalled how we had met, and I asked them why
Tamara was always introducing the new girls to me.
Gloria replied, "When Tamara was about to introduce me to you, she
said, 'Now I'm going to introduce you to the real spender around here!' "
I had to think a moment before I realized that the sixteen-dollar
bottle of champagne bought with such a vigorous and misunderstood "never
mind!" turned out to be a good investment. I apparently had the reputation
of being some kind of eccentric who always came in not dressed up, not in a
neat suit, but always ready to spend lots of money on the girls.
Eventually I told them that I was struck by something: "I'm fairly
intelligent," I said, "but probably only about physics. But in that bar
there are lots of intelligent guys -- oil guys, mineral guys, important
businessmen, and so forth -- and all the time they're buying the girls
drinks, and they get nothin' for it!" (By this time I had decided that
nobody else was getting anything out of all those drinks either.) "How is it
possible," I asked, "that an 'intelligent' guy can be such a goddamn fool
when he gets into a bar?"
The master said, "This I know all about. I know exactly how it all
works. I will give you lessons, so that hereafter you can get something from
a girl in a bar like this. But before I give you the lessons, I must
demonstrate that I really know what I'm talking about. So to do that, Gloria
will get a man to buy you a champagne cocktail."
I say, "OK," though I'm thinking, "How the hell are they gonna do it?"
The master continued: "Now you must do exactly as we tell you. Tomorrow
night you should sit some distance from Gloria in the bar, and when she
gives you a sign, all you have to do is walk by."
"Yes," says Gloria. "It'll be easy."
The next night I go to the bar and sit in the corner, where I can keep
my eye on Gloria from a distance. After a while, sure enough, there's some
guy sitting with her, and after a little while longer the guy's happy and
Gloria gives me a wink. I get up and nonchalantly saunter by. Just as I'm
passing, Gloria turns around and says in a real friendly and bright voice,
"Oh, hi, Dick! When did you get back into town? Where have you been?"
At this moment the guy turns around to see who this "Dick" is, and I
can see in his eyes something I understand completely, since I have been in
that position so often myself.
First look: "Oh-oh, competition coming up. He's gonna take her away
from me after I bought her a drink! What's gonna happen?"
Next look: "No, it's just a casual friend. They seem to know each other
from some time back." I could see all this. I could read it on his face. I
knew exactly what he was going through.
Gloria turns to him and says, "Jim, I'd like you to meet an old friend
of mine, Dick Feynman."
Next look: "I know what I'll do; I'll be kind to this guy so that
she'll like me more."
Jim turns to me and says, "Hi, Dick. How about a drink?"
"Fine!" I say.
"What'll ya have?"
"Whatever she's having."
"Bartender, another champagne cocktail, please."
So it was easy; there was nothing to it. That night after the bar
closed I went again over to the master and Gloria's motel. They were
laughing and smiling, happy with how it worked out. "All right," I said,
"I'm absolutely convinced that you two know exactly what you're talking
about. Now, what about the lessons?"
"OK," he says. "The whole principle is this: The guy wants to be a
gentleman. He doesn't want to be thought of as impolite, crude, or
especially a cheapskate. As long as the girl knows the guy's motives so
well, it's easy to steer him in the direction she wants him to go.
"Therefore," he continued, "under no circumstances be a gentleman! You
must disrespect the girls. Furthermore, the very first rule is, don't buy a
girl anything -- not even a package of cigarettes -- until you've asked her
if she'll sleep with you, and you're convinced that she will, and that she's
not lying."
"Uh... you mean... you don't... uh... you just ask them?"
"OK," he says, "I know this is your first lesson, and it may be hard
for you to be so blunt. So you might buy her one thing -- just one little
something -- before you ask. But on the other hand, it will only make it
more difficult."
Well, someone only has to give me the principle, and I get the idea.
All during the next day I built up my psychology differently: I adopted the
attitude that those bar girls are all bitches, that they aren't worth
anything, and all they're in there for is to get you to buy them a drink,
and they're not going to give you a goddamn thing; I'm not going to be a
gentleman to such worthless bitches, and so on. I learned it till it was
automatic.
Then that night I was ready to try it out. I go into the bar as usual,
and right away my friend says, "Hey, Dick! Wait'll you see the girl I got
tonight! She had to go change her clothes, but she's coming right back."
"Yeah, yeah," I say, unimpressed, and I sit at another table to watch
the show. My friend's girl comes in just as the show starts, and I'm
thinking, "I don't give a damn how pretty she is; all she's doing is getting
him to buy her drinks, and she's going to give him nothing!"
After the first act my friend says, "Hey, Dick! I want you to meet Ann.
Ann, this is a good friend of mine, Dick Feynman."
I say "Hi" and keep looking at the show.
A few moments later Ann says to me, "Why don't you come and sit at the
table here with us?"
I think to myself, "Typical bitch: he's buying her drinks, and she's
inviting somebody else to the table." I say, "I can see fine from here."
A little while later a lieutenant from the military base nearby comes
in, dressed in a nice uniform. It isn't long, before we notice that Ann is
sitting over on the other side of the bar with the lieutenant!
Later that evening I'm sitting at the bar, Ann is dancing with the
lieutenant, and when the lieutenant's back is toward me and she's facing me,
she smiles very pleasantly to me. I think again, "Some bitch! Now she's
doing this trick on the lieutenant even!"
Then I get a good idea: I don't look at her until the lieutenant can
also see me, and then I smile back at her, so the lieutenant will know
what's going on. So her trick didn't work for long.
A few minutes later she's not with the lieutenant any more, but asking
the bartender for her coat and handbag, saying in a loud, obvious voice,
"I'd like to go for a walk. Does anybody want to go for a walk with me?"
I think to myself, "You can keep saying no and pushing them off, but
you can't do it permanently, or you won't get anywhere. There comes a time
when you have to go along." So I say coolly, "I'll walk with you." So we go
out. We walk down the street a few blocks and see a cafe, and she says,
"I've got an idea -- let's get some coffee and sandwiches, and go over to my
place and eat them."
The idea sounds pretty good, so we go into the cafe and she orders
three coffees and three sandwiches and I pay for them.
As we're going out of the cafe, I think to myself, "Something's wrong:
too many sandwiches!"
On the way to her motel she says, "You know, I won't have time to eat
these sandwiches with you, because a lieutenant is coming over..."
I think to myself, "See, I flunked. The master gave me a lesson on what
to do, and I flunked. I bought her $1.10 worth of sandwiches, and hadn't
asked her anything, and now I know I'm gonna get nothing! I have to recover,
if only for the pride of my teacher."
I stop suddenly and I say to her, "You... are worse than a WHORE!"
"Whaddya mean?"
'"You got me to buy these sandwiches, and what am I going to get for
it? Nothing!"
"Well, you cheapskate!" she says. "If that's the way you feel, I'll pay
you back for the sandwiches!"
I called her bluff: "Pay me back, then."
She was astonished. She reached into her pocketbook, took out the
little bit of money that she had and gave it to me. I took my sandwich and
coffee and went off.
After I was through eating, I went back to the bar to report to the
master. I explained everything, and told him I was sorry that I flunked, but
I tried to recover.
He said very calmly, "It's OK, Dick; it's all right. Since you ended up
not buying her anything, she's gonna sleep with you tonight."
"What?"
"That's right," he said confidently; "she's gonna sleep with you. I
know that."
"But she isn't even here! She's at her place with the lieu --"
"It's all right."
Two o'clock comes around, the bar closes, and Ann hasn't appeared. I
ask the master and his wife if I can come over to their place again. They
say sure.
Just as we're coming out of the bar, here comes Ann, running across
Route 66 toward me. She puts her arm in mine, and says, "Come on, let's go
over to my place."
The master was right. So the lesson was terrific!
When I was back at Cornell in the fall, I was dancing with the sister
of a grad student, who was visiting from Virginia. She was very nice, and
suddenly I got this idea: "Let's go to a bar and have a drink," I said.
On the way to the bar I was working up nerve to try the master's lesson
on an ordinary girl. After all, you don't feel so bad disrespecting a bar
girl who's trying to get you to buy her drinks -- but a nice, ordinary,
Southern girl?
We went into the bar, and before I sat down, I said, "Listen, before I
buy you a drink, I want to know one thing: Will you sleep with me tonight?"
"Yes."
So it worked even with an ordinary girl! But no matter how effective
the lesson was, I never really used it after that. I didn't enjoy doing it
that way. But it was interesting to know that things worked much differently
from how I was brought up.
 
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Rules are simple.

Pu$$y costs money, but d1ck is free.

We go 50:50, OK we do it her way. I pick up the whole tab, we're doing an4l an the first date.

:whistling Don't ever ask me for a friendship request, Ok.
(Edit) or PM me.
 
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This is a traders forum, we are supposed to make or lose 10K+ on each trade we do, 100K loss limits for the day etc, such trivial things (such as splitting a £200 date bill) are not supposed to concern us :LOL:

It's the precedent though. One day you're paying for her happy meal and apple pie. The next day you're buying her a Ferrari and a summer house in the Hamptons.
 
In "Surely your'e joking Mr Feynman" (a book of short stories about the GREAT physicist Richard Feynman) there is a story about how he learned (was told) how to get women to sleep with him. Think the title is "You just ask them?". It was when he was spending alot of time with air hostesses and wasnt getting very far. Basically it goes on the theory that you do NOT pay for anything if you want them to fall all over you and sleep with you. Also in the end, you just ask them to. Worth a read.

It probably also helped that, (like me), he was, (I still am), very good looking and charismatic :cheesy:

Yes - beside his monumental achievements Richard Feynman was an inspiring human being and that remains my favourite biography. Have you ever watched the Horizon interview? 20 years on, I still think that must be the best-ever return on BBC/TV licence money.
 
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