Priced In Already - How does it work?

This is a discussion on Priced In Already - How does it work? within the Forex forums, part of the Markets category; Originally Posted by Nowler Can you please provide me with a link to Fed market watch? http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/inte...-to-fomc.html/...

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Old Dec 29, 2017, 10:27pm   #25
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Can you please provide me with a link to Fed market watch?
http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/inte...-to-fomc.html/
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Old Dec 30, 2017, 12:56am   #26
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Assuming your view is accurate - what are your solutions?
Well if you know what they are doing that gives you a big advantage. Generally speaking you can see them "prime" a market or pair before the news release. Or you can see where they entered before the news release and generally speaking theyll off load it at a predetermined level that gives them liquidity to get out of their positions. The news just fuels them or gives them liquidity to enter or exit the Market because it attracts so many people to the Market. They need those people so they can get in and out of their positions.
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Old Dec 30, 2017, 1:00am   #27
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Do you have any evidence to support such a view .... time machine perhaps?
Well there are simulators that play back periods of the Market. I guess I could download one and show you exactly what they are doing before news releases, etc. Most my trading takes advantage of the time the news release comes out. I generally don't care if it's good or bad news because the people who make the Market will use it too their advantage.
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Old Dec 30, 2017, 1:03am   #28
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What a load of rubbish
Yeah... Rubbish... Goodluck chasing the market....
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Old Dec 30, 2017, 1:45am   #29
 
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... you can see where they entered before the news..
hi anon

do you have an example of a time where you could "see" them entering before the news that you can share?
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Old Dec 30, 2017, 2:35am   #30
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Well there are simulators that play back periods of the Market. I guess I could download one and show you exactly what they are doing before news releases, etc. Most my trading takes advantage of the time the news release comes out. I generally don't care if it's good or bad news because the people who make the Market will use it too their advantage.
What has simulators got to do with your attempt to explain your statement that "big player's or banks already know the news outcomes"? There are multitudes of reason to position ahead of a risk event but that doesn't mean that they "know the news outcome".
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Old Dec 30, 2017, 3:04am   #31
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What has simulators got to do with your attempt to explain your statement that "big player's or banks already know the news outcomes"? There are multitudes of reason to position ahead of a risk event but that doesn't mean that they "know the news outcome".
Well I'm pretty sure you asked if I could go back in time. Simulators or backtesting is kinda like that. What's funny is you don't think the markets are manipulated to trap traders on the wrong side of a market before some news events. Easy to spot if you know what your looking for...
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Old Dec 30, 2017, 3:04am   #32
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What has simulators got to do with your attempt to explain your statement that "big player's or banks already know the news outcomes"? There are multitudes of reason to position ahead of a risk event but that doesn't mean that they "know the news outcome".
I would think he/she means that the parties involved have made their call on their position in advance of the news. No one knows for sure the result of the data, but one can make a call what it will likely be, hence positions are taken in advance.

Have you noticed when the data is not in line with the expectation, but we then reverse the initial reaction to the news? This is because these players (not really banks) but big traders, didn't get to off load their position, hence we do the reversal.

When data is inline with expectation we jump in that direction off the get go and the same guys n gals off load no problem, then we can reverse after ( if the underlying scenario is weak).

But its not wise to think/assume that positions will always be taken ahead of data, so if one can't see accumulation then its best to step aside.

So if we work it back, we realise that news is simply an excuse/reason to satisfy the needs and wants of the major players.

So to the OP - rather than looking at what is priced in, try to see if price action can give you any clues as to what various players may have been doing or not been doing prior, as this is what will ultimately move the market, the rest is simply a form of distraction.
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