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Nice one, jeffsmith, keep it coming..



Yes,stalla, you might be quite right on that one, you know..especially with the GBP crosses

like GBPCHF and GBPJPY, aka the beast..so prudent money management during trading is very

important..

[11:11:55 19/11/08] Stalion: hi everyone

[11:12:17 19/11/08] Maximus : Hey Stalion good to hear from you..

[11:14:08 19/11/08] djcarlos : Hi

[11:16:02 19/11/08] Stalion : cool...

[11:21:42 19/11/08] Stalion : also a buy stop on gu at 1.5005..1st target at 1.5025..2nd

target at 1.5045...40 pip sl away

[11:25:43 19/11/08] djcarlos : so, the buy entry was hit???

[11:26:33 19/11/08] Stalion : yes, dj...

[11:26:46 19/11/08] Stalion : we are on the ride

[11:44:07 19/11/08] klho83 : All targets hit

[11:45:24 19/11/08] djcarlos : yes

[11:50:35 19/11/08] masif1 : wow - quick 40pips!



[11:50:35 19/11/08] Maximus : do we live the sell stop there?

[11:50:47 19/11/08] masif1 : and still going up!

[11:53:16 19/11/08] Maximus : guys do myou keep your sell entry activated or not?

[11:56:07 19/11/08] djcarlos : I saw in dailyfx.com that GU will going to make pivot in

1.5050

[11:56:34 19/11/08] Stalion : no...delete the sell stop entry for now, since market dynamics

have changed

[11:56:46 19/11/08] djcarlos : ok

[11:57:00 19/11/08] Maximus : thx...

[11:57:03 19/11/08] Stalion : hope you got ur trailing stop on

[11:58:00 19/11/08] Stalion : what kind of pivot,dj? what do you mean about pivot at 1.5050

[11:58:03 19/11/08] Maximus : exit 1.5045 because only trading 0.10 lots..



[11:58:35 19/11/08] djcarlos : I can send to you the chart by mail

[11:59:07 19/11/08] klho83 : Is the sell stop still valid?

[11:59:48 19/11/08] masif1 : i have left the sell in place

[11:59:54 19/11/08] Stalion : it doesnt matter, max..you could close half of the 0.1 lot

...as in, 0.05..the allow d other half to ride with a trailing stop..


[20:33:40] Stalion : hi folks, its a cool evening here in the city of Lagos, so we put a buy

stop on GBPUSD @ 1.5045..1st target at 1.5070...2nd taRGET AT 1.5095..3rd target at

1.5120...50 pip sl away



And we also put a sell stop on GBPUSD @ 1.4970...1st target @ 1.4945..2nd target @

1.4920..3rd target @ 1.4895..




We call it TRAPPING THE DRAGON TECHNIqueza

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Yes, onwuka...there are some good chart patterns around...just google head and shoulder patterns, W top and bottom, wedges,triangles,pennants, etc..You could find something useful that might assist you in your trading activities..If you checked those charts, you would hardly see any indicators...every trading decision is based from the charts and patterns..no mumbo jumbo indicators or lines all over the place,,just straight from the charts..




Lol,kitty...in reality..it is quite simple and easy in forecasting..Dont stop it if you think you gonna make a profit..
Many of the most simplest things in life are the most profound..like hydrogen,with the atomic number of 1.
We need 2 atoms of oxygen with an atom of hydrogen, to form 1 molecue of water(H20)..Very simple but many people are not AWARE..''For the Bible says;My people Perish Due To Lack Of Knowledge/Vision''..
Until you are AWARE that YOU are the INDICATOR..YOU are the Expert Advisor...YOU are the ROBOT...YOU are the HOLY GRAIL'',,you would always see yourself as a beginner in the markets..
Until you throw off the clutches of EA's, robots,and diverse indicators, and start taking trading decisions straight from the charts,you would always tend to see yourself handicapped from reaching your goals of making profits through trading..
YOU TAKE THE DECISION...YOU TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITIES..NOT A ROBOT..FOR YOU ARE THE R-O-B-O-T!


Sorry,logoodung, you were right in the middle of the 3 low of the 1-2-3 pattern,which usually foretells a bullish bias..Problem was, you thought short, instead of long..Thats what you missed, mon ami..ohh, by the way, there was also a bullish hammer candlestick just where you went short, which formed as support to price..so where you would've gone right, as in the solution, was by putting a sell stop below the low of 1, of the 123 chart pattern,which if triggered, would confirm your bearish bias in pric e movement..



[20:45:50 19/11/08] Maximus : ok I got it, thx Stalion.....

[20:50:33 19/11/08] djcarlos : thanks Stal

[09:24:57 20/11/08] klho83 : I missed that

[10:31:43 20/11/08] klho83 : Hi Max.

[10:58:56 20/11/08] masif1 : guys stalion did NOT post the following alert

[10:59:05 20/11/08] masif1 : And we also put a sell stop on GBPUSD @ 1.4970...1st target @ 1.4945..2nd target @

[11:00:48 20/11/08] masif1 : 1.4920..3rd target @ 1.4895..

[11:00:55 20/11/08] masif1 : this was on the forum

[11:01:08 20/11/08] masif1 : http://www.trade2win.com/boards/fore...-pairs-24.html

[11:01:13 20/11/08] masif1 : posted last night

[11:01:23 20/11/08] masif1 : the buy call we would have got stopped out on

[11:01:37 20/11/08] masif1 : however the sell call we would have made profit Wink

[11:06:42 20/11/08] masif1 : or was that the original sell alert stalion sent yesterday morning?

[11:06:59 20/11/08] masif1 : i know i should not have cancelled it ;(





so for Friday,we put a buy stop on GBPUSD @ 1.4865...1st target @ 1.4900...2nd target @ 1.4950...3rd target @ 1.5050

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ddock222

i dont get the idea you showing about thw system. first, where are those numbers come from ? i looked at the charts that you attached those numbers (2.0168, 2.0050, 2.0089). sencond, is this same as the 3 ducks system ?

forexgreenland

Trust onwuka to ask some of those deep questions...

We use what traders popularly call the TOP DOWN APPROACH..starting from the higher

timeframes(monthly, weekly, daily and four hourly), to the lower timeframes(hourly,

15min,and 5 minutes..)..As we are mainly on intraday trading,we use lower timeframes to

pinpoint entries and exits...higher timeframes are mainly used by position and swing

traders..also good for knowing the overall trend..

2..The spacing of the 1-2-3 pattern is quite irrelevant due to the fact that market dynamics

change as time progresses..trading is a function of time and space..HOW long can price

travel in a session(s)..What you are looking for is the OVERALL pattern, not the difference

in sums between the parts of the whole..

3..A bullish hammer is oulined like a hammer...where the shadow or tail is twice the length

of the real body of the candlestick..whether dark or white..it means price is pausing in

order to reverse or continue its walk..
And yes, a doji can also foretell a preceeding fall losing steam..



Yes, we surely will,Reeal...



'The Reaction Swing is the centre of the cycle, where you can look back and then based on

this information, determine where the cycle will go in the future.Since the Reaction Swing

is where the Action ends and the Reaction begins, it marks the centre of a repititive cycle

in which the past can project the future..
In the monthly chart below, the price movement between B and C is the Reaction Swing.
A Reaction Swing begins and ends with the lowest and highest closing prices..All you need to

know are the dates of the highest closing price and the lowest closing price of the Reaction

Swing in order to move on to the next step- PROJECTING FUTURE TURNING POINTS IN THE MARKETS

CALLED REVERSAL DATES, WHERE PRICE AND TIME CONVERGE.



Subtract the low of 1.7047(C), from the high of 1.9554(B) to get a difference of 0.2507
Divide 0.2507 by 2 (half) to get a total of 0.1254
Subtract 0.1254 from the high of 1.9554 and you get a price of 1.8304 ass the centre of the

Reaction Swing.
Place a sell stop at 1.8304.When the market passes through this price, the sell stop is

triggered and you are short GBPUSD at 1.8304.That should be around august this year..
The next step is to determine the maximum possible timespan of the trade..According to TIME

PROJECTION strategies, the Reversal date(high probability turning point of its trend) is

scheduled as from 4 to 8 months from now..Those on March futures could take mental note.
Whichever comes first...1.3090 target for our price projection or 4 to 8 months in our time

projection..




Not sure,kong..



Hi trackstar,It is much of a ''method'', than it is a strategy...The CHART PATTERN

RECOGNITION AND PRICE PROJECTION STRATEGY simply tells us where price is going and how far

it might get there, to a considerable extent..

technamental wrote:

You are quite mistaken, my good fellow..maybe there's a slight misunderstanding here...I

intract by answering comments and questions addressed in this thread..Just by reading your

posts along with others, here, shows inclusion..I'm sorry if it seems self promoting to you,

but I believe readers have a lot to gain when going through this thread,whether

participating or non participating..very educative and reveals how real life practical

trading works..no spouting of theories that brings no profits to members..Why cover the

light under a basket in darkness? The purpose and nature of light is to shine!
This is like a JOURNEY...A JOURNEY INTO THE HEART OF TRADING...A MOVEMENT...A MOVEMENT INTO

THE FRONTIERS OF OPPORTUNITIES! And if along the way, showing that trading can be a

winner's game..or something good can come out of my country Nigeria, despite all the media

negativity...if considered as self promoting..then so be it...Cant win'em all, can we?



[09:57:05 21/11/08] Stalion : hi everyone

[09:57:23 21/11/08] Stalion : so for Friday,we put a buy stop on GBPUSD @ 1.4865...1st

target @ 1.4900...2nd target @ 1.4950...3rd target @ 1.5050

[10:33:27 21/11/08] Maximus : I received the sms to late for the trade....

[10:43:26 21/11/08] Maximus : masif1 did you had the chance tp enter in the trade...

[10:49:06 21/11/08] djcarlos : i enter ... and after to 1st target hit... went out and

re-enter... and now in 2nd hit go out.... thanks Stal



[10:49:18 21/11/08] djcarlos : 80 pips in the bag

[10:54:00 21/11/08] djcarlos : The sell stop is 1.4970????

[11:12:04 21/11/08] masif1 : hi maximus

[11:12:15 21/11/08] masif1 : i did and trailing a the s/l

[11:12:25 21/11/08] masif1 : 50pips already in the bag!

[11:13:11 21/11/08] djcarlos : do you will enter the sell stop ???

[11:13:30 21/11/08] djcarlos : now is hiting

[12:55:08 21/11/08] masif1 : 3rd target hit

[12:55:41 21/11/08] masif1 : 185 pips



[12:55:55 21/11/08] masif1 : cheers

[13:15:14 21/11/08] Maximus : whatr is the sell stop????

[13:38:07 21/11/08] masif1 : it was buy stop order not a sell

[14:04:34 21/11/08] Maximus : what was the sell stop that Stalion send on the sms???

[15:37:20 21/11/08] masif1 : 10:39:43 20/11/08] Stalion : okay....sell stop at 1.4820..1st

target at 1.4785....

[15:51:44 21/11/08] djcarlos : the sell Stop of Trapping the Dragon its in 1.4970..

[16:24:45 21/11/08] masif1 : lol

[16:24:54 21/11/08] masif1 : your right djcarlos

[16:24:57 21/11/08] masif1 : good call

[16:25:03 21/11/08] masif1 : shame i missed it

[16:47:39 21/11/08] Maximus : the sell stop 1.4820 is still good or not!!!!

[17:04:57 21/11/08] djcarlos : I used 1.4970 sell stop... and go out with 170 pips

[17:05:16 21/11/08] djcarlos : Very Happy

[17:05:23 21/11/08] djcarlos : thanks Stal

[17:07:44 21/11/08] djcarlos : the trapping of dragon worked exelent..

[17:29:48 21/11/08] masif1 : what a dragon!

[17:29:54 21/11/08] masif1 : well done djcarlos

[17:30:39 21/11/08] masif1 : that's a possible 300-400 pips made today!

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Quite elementary, my dear Watson..I mean, Bert..The Doggy Style move on the GBPUSD have the

potential of yielding approximately 135 pps when we put a sell stop @ 1.4922..1st target @

1.4881..2nd target @ 1.4840..3rd target @ 1.4787...if you fear a trap, you can also put a

buy stop on the same entry @ 1.4922..1st target @ 1.4945..2nd target @ 1.4970..3rd target @

1.4995..on the bullish side..USDCHF might also open on the bullish side @ 1.2225..1st target

@ 1.2245..2nd target @ 1.2262

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[00:07:31 24/11/08] Stalion : hi everyone

[00:09:04 24/11/08] Stalion : price made a bullish gap on the opening gap of the Asian session....so its a very good opportunity

[00:09:40 24/11/08] Stalion : we put a sell stop @ 1.4922..1st target @ 1.4881..2nd target @ 1.4840..3rd target @ 1.4787...if you fear a trap, you can also put a buy stop on the same entry @ 1.4922..1st target @ 1.4945..2nd target @ 1.4970..3rd target @ 1.4995..on the bullish side..USDCHF might also open on the bullish side @ 1.2225..1st target @ 1.2245..2nd target @ 1.2262

[00:10:13 24/11/08] Stalion : we revise our sell stop to 1.4945

[00:53:13 24/11/08] djcarlos : FXCM it having problems... i cant enter the sell stop

[01:14:33 24/11/08] djcarlos : entry point was hit??? I cant see

[01:26:30 24/11/08] Stalion : hmmmm....

[01:27:04 24/11/08] Stalion : the doggy style didnt work?

[01:27:46 24/11/08] djcarlos : I dont know ... I cant see .. my plataform it having problems...

[01:32:03 24/11/08] djcarlos : how was the alert???

[01:33:52 24/11/08] Stalion : we just hit first target

[01:34:07 24/11/08] djcarlos : Sad



[01:39:46 24/11/08] Stalion : u can still enter now....

[01:40:01 24/11/08] Stalion : price still has some distance to go....

[01:50:28 24/11/08] djcarlos : I cant because my broker is not working

[01:51:19 24/11/08] djcarlos : The doggy style is going to be like trapping dragon.... it will going up.. after down??

[02:57:15 24/11/08] djcarlos : I cant enter yet








Dr Who?
Sorry...bert...stuff happens..right?

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forexgreenland

Hi everyone, hope ur all having a nice day...the UK gdp REPORT CAME OUT THE SAME , SO FOR

NOW, TECHNICAL ANALYSIS IS PREEMINENT..we put a sell stop on GBPUSD @ 1.5300..1st target @

1.5260...2nd target @ 1.5175..3rd target @ 1.5090..sl @ 50 pips away from entry..

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Helloo Learning pips,
You know what your questions does to me? it challenges me...really, it does..like digging

down the well of yourself..believe me guys, these questions are NOT easy, though

simple..neither is understanding market behaviour or ''tells'' for consistent

profitability..
So we go back to our monthly charts on the GBPUSD..remember last time, we talked about a

reversal date of 4 to 8 months from now, for the cable..in which , price would have reached

a high probability turning point from its downtrend to (A) an uptrend reversal or (B), a

sideways consolidation or range in which the market is not ready to reverse but would

continue trading in the same direction as the current trend.So price on cable has a maximum of 9 months to show a reversal, according to the Reversal Date technique.



We shouldnt mix the concept of the Reaction Swing and Projected Reversal Date with the 60%

buy/sell windows. The R.S is mainly used for TIME PROJECTIONS while the 60% buy/sell windows

are more useful in the realm of PRICE PROJECTIONS.Now look at BC, the Reaction Swing where

we got the centre of the circle in which the past can project the future..though price would

have triggered our centre of the Reaction Swing @ 1.8300..it made a turnaround at the 60%

window..where the red arrow was.. Except you got very deep pockets to withstand a $1300 pip

downward move with leverage,you would've been stopped out..It was at the 2nd try, where the

blue arrow was, that price cleanly triggered the buy stop at the centre of the Reaction

Swing, and rocketed up..

Another difference is the R.S/R.D are mainly used in PRICE RETRACEMENTS, while the BUY/SELL

WINDOWS, are mainly used PRICE TRENDS..Always understand the difference, like understanding

your reality..''where Am I At In The Present Moment Of Now?'' Where Am I In The Greater

Scheme Of The Universe?Am I in a full trend or a retracement/correction?

2 Actually, you can apply those TIME PROJECTION TECHNIQUES on any timeframe, whether 5min,

15min, hourly, or weekly,etc.. The major challenge is counting those bars or candlesticks,

for the lower the timeframes, the more Reaction Swings inherent in them, and the more you do

your counts.. Since John Crane is from the futures/commodities world, most of his strategies

are different, yet similar to those in the forex world. His brilliant book, ADVANCED SWING

TRADING'', is very helpful for swing and position traders..




Hmmm, Mageroi, you might be quite right there..though they still have their uses..Is Time

Projection a core strategy of Buffetology?






Well, Mahir,
just dont overlook GOLD as an alternative asset class, that traders run to during periods of

market uncertainity.

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Even lower, danew...Price on the cable have up to 9 months to prove it.

NOW,SUNDAY,our previous order is still on,.we put a sell stop on GBPUSD @ 1.5300..1st target

@ 1.5260...2nd target @ 1.5175..3rd target @ 1.5090..sl @ 50 pips away from entry..

[10:32:33 26/11/08] Stalion : we also put a buy stop on gu @ 1.5540...1st target @

1.5580..2nd target @ 1.5615

[10:33:04 26/11/08] Stalion : sl @ 40 pips away..

If you care to observe, both buy and sell stops are at the extreme end of the Thanksgiving

week range..so we call this THE MONTHOBAMA TECHNIQUE

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