Horse/sports laying system

steweybaby26 · Aug 10, 2010

Morning all,
I have spent a lot of time looking through posts relating to laying systems. Personaly I dont beleive in computer generated systems. Nor do I believe some of the strike rates advertised from laying websites or promise of get rich schemes. All in there is no value for service for your purchase of system or monthly subscriptions. Everyone loses at some point. Its how you apply strict rules within yourself to deal with it. You only get rich if you have substantial capital behind you - but rick would be high.
From my experience, its an individuals talent in reading form and instinct that can provide long term success i.e. regular profit - not get rich quick.
Check out this site.
www.laying-horse-football-rugby.co.uk

602511 · Sep 25, 2010

steweybaby26 said:
Morning all,
I have spent a lot of time looking through posts relating to laying systems. Personaly I dont beleive in computer generated systems. Nor do I believe some of the strike rates advertised from laying websites or promise of get rich schemes. All in there is no value for service for your purchase of system or monthly subscriptions. Everyone loses at some point. Its how you apply strict rules within yourself to deal with it. You only get rich if you have substantial capital behind you - but rick would be high.
From my experience, its an individuals talent in reading form and instinct that can provide long term success i.e. regular profit - not get rich quick.
Check out this site.
www.laying-horse-football-rugby.co.uk

I do a lot of laying and trading, on course bookmakers try for a profit of about 3%-5% on turnover, on betfair i have hit 15%, but a 10% return on lays over a long period would be acceptable, some are computer generated and some are on the phoneline.

The problem with lays is they are not usually suitable for the gambler but for money making they are quite consistent profit.

Ambrose Ackroyd · Sep 25, 2010

The trouble with horse racing is that you have got half a ton of blood and guts running around a track and over a few fences.

You can have the biggest favourite ever but it is still a big heap of live running meat which can drop dead or f*ck up at any moment in time.

Compounded with that you usually have a hundred weight or so of Irish blood and guts on top of the horse trying to guide it around the track and over the obstacles.

It is no wonder that most people lose on horse racing.

arabianights · Sep 25, 2010

I quite prefer the idea of laying **** horses at short odds, on the basis that almost no one goes to the paddock, so the market odds just don't reflect horses that are obviously ****ty when you see em in the flesh... it been working for me so far but only done it a few times... am going to ascot tomorrow in fact to have another go... will see what happens...

Trader333 · Sep 26, 2010

You can have the biggest favourite ever but it is still a big heap of live running meat which can drop dead or f*ck up at any moment in time.

The whole point in "laying" horses is exactly what you have said here and that is why it can be consistently profitable.

Paul

Ambrose Ackroyd · Sep 27, 2010

Yes, but you need a high strike rate because 1 winner ( loser ) can land you back at square 1.

602511 · Sep 27, 2010

Ambrose Ackroyd said:
Yes, but you need a high strike rate because 1 winner ( loser ) can land you back at square 1.

a good system can predict what is going to happen in a race, if a horse has run a few times it then has data that can be analized to predict if you run the race, you are able with a high degree of accuracy to predict what the outcome is going to be.

laying is smaller profits but more consistent profit, my advice is only lay 1st and 2nd favourites and keep below 4/1, you need to know which races, racecourses, and horses
to lay of course but thats what good systems do, they predict which ones to lay.

arabianights · Sep 27, 2010

I lost every single bet. Both the horses I backed and the ones I laid

NVP · Nov 2, 2010

hey all

heres my humble take on things.......

for me in all this type of betting (from laying horseracing to hoopla via all sports

)

The trick is not to worry at all about the race or event - focus on the money flow and emotions/decisions that are happening with the betting as the event start arrives.....and then continue if the sport permits even in event for the race or match

watch the herd mentality through the odds/volume and try to move / anticipate what will happen ahead of the pack.....you can get incredible odds on the right set-ups

its not the events outcome itself thats makes money....its the punters themselves that hand you the profits

N

NVP · Nov 2, 2010

602511 said:
a good system can predict what is going to happen in a race, if a horse has run a few times it then has data that can be analized to predict if you run the race, you are able with a high degree of accuracy to predict what the outcome is going to be.

laying is smaller profits but more consistent profit, my advice is only lay 1st and 2nd favourites and keep below 4/1, you need to know which races, racecourses, and horses
to lay of course but thats what good systems do, they predict which ones to lay.

I spent years alongside pro gamblers who went to rediculous lengths to "programme" in statistics for a race and reacehorses and now in this age of limitless cheap data and programming power everything is possible..... and I can tell you that the problem is that it only delivers short priced winners that do not sustain a profitable living

What we need is a talking horse to tell us what they really feel like 2 mins before the flag goes up

N

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