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Old Jan 2, 2004, 11:47am   #1
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'Dogs of the Dow'

Am a novice and have come across this 'Dogs of the Dow' website - the one where you buy the top 10 dow shares (highest dividend) for a year then sell the lot and buy again. The strategy claims 20% avg annual return.

Has anyone done this one? It seems simple so therefore attractive to me as a beginner as a place to start, but would like to get others feedback first - Also i have little (£1000) to invest so this may also not be the best place to start for that reason - any feedback?

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Old Jan 2, 2004, 12:22pm   #2
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Hi there

I'm not familar with this strategy. However there is the one step plan from the investors chronicle! On the 1st Oct you buy the worst 10 performing stocks of the S&P 500 over the last 3 years. Then come Sept 30ish the following year you sell and buy the next 10 worst of the last 3 years etc. Over the last 8 years it's generated 176% return per year.

Not bad!!

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Old Jan 2, 2004, 2:59pm   #3
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It's a very simple, statistically based long term buy and hold strategy that requires a couple of hours work once a year. Suits some, others not. The returns seem to be reasonable, and for the effort put in, exceptional.
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Old Jan 2, 2004, 9:39pm   #4
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It has produced about 18% returns over last 30 years per annum on average, but that doesnt really guarantee itll work into the future does it tho?
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Old Jan 2, 2004, 9:54pm   #5
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Plus this method gets quite a lot of publicity now-surely if too many people are using this method then it will render it useless as share prices rocket up in those companies that it will affect-or am i wrong?
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Old Jan 2, 2004, 10:17pm   #6
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I don't think so. The reason is that it might produce a bit of extra buying pressure on the first day. Price will then pull-back as the short-termers sell for a profit and bring price back to where it started. The ones who are in for the long-term won't care though as their not looking to sell for a year.

What happens after that is probably fundamental based buying

Just my thoughts
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Old Jan 2, 2004, 10:41pm   #7
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Hmm.....i think ur right

Mind u there must be some sort of potential then for other profits to be made tho due to that sudden increase in volume of shares bought in those companies?
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Old Jan 16, 2004, 3:05am   #8
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To me as a newbie, this is very interesting...Volume-lots or lack of.
Isn't this a double edged sword though?
Imagine, 1st of Oct, 1000 people each buy 1000 shares each.
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So eventually we all get to the 30th of Sept and guess what, all of a sudden the market gets flooded with 1 000 000 shares for sale...

2 Questions.
1) who will buy all these shares and what an affect is this going to have on the price-I'm looking at the floor here?
2) Did the company float so many shares in the 1st place?
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Old Jan 16, 2004, 3:53am   #9
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If you're buying Dow stocks, these are the largest U.S. stocks with millions and millions of shares outstanding and very high daily volume. I doubt the Dogs of the Dow buyers/sellers will have much of an impact.

Also, there may be market moving news (interest rate cut/raise, etc.) on the day of purchase/sales that affects the price more than "Dogs of the Dow" participants ever could.

As far as who do you sell it to? Most are NYSE stocks so you'd be selling to the specialist in that stock who is required to be the buyer of last resort. That is, if the market is tanking and there's no buyers, he/she has to buy - but unfortunately probably not at a price at which you're going to be happy to sell.

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Old Jan 21, 2004, 11:28pm   #10
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Dogs of the Dow is a 50/50 trading strategy. The divvies might be nice but the growth will be crap. I think this technique has worked only twice in the last 10 years.

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