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Old Nov 30, 2016, 10:15pm   #1
 
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Beginner: PC setup

Hi All,

I'm a newbie - first post. Currently in a high powered job but craving escape into a world of autonomous day trading. Have set myself a 3 year plan to learn, learn, learn and learn some more. I'm reading the books...but realising that they lack context without being able to track the market, watch the charts etc. So, I'm looking to buy a trading PC setup. Then, a dummy account.

Question: I'm an Apple Mac user but I assume PC windows is the way to go. Any tips on the gear I'll need and easy route into it?

Cheers!!

Paul
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Old Nov 30, 2016, 10:20pm   #2
 
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Unless you are planning on doing heavy real-time processing, you can work just fine on an entry level pc
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Old Nov 30, 2016, 10:24pm   #3
 
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Why don't you carry on using your apple.

Plenty of browser based trading apps.

Having said that I'd recommend getting rid of your over priced and hyped apple with a PC / Laptop.


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Why don't you carry on using your apple.
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I like the integration of Apple across a family of five. They make it so easy.

But, I've struggled to find a trading platform that works outside Windows.
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I like the integration of Apple across a family of five. They make it so easy.

But, I've struggled to find a trading platform that works outside Windows.


https://www.ig.com/uk/desktop-trading-platform
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Old Dec 14, 2016, 12:33pm   #6
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I started off using my mac.. it was okay but I found trading platforms didn't work as well compared to windows.
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Old Dec 16, 2016, 12:25pm   #7
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Hi All,

I'm a newbie - first post. Currently in a high powered job but craving escape into a world of autonomous day trading. Have set myself a 3 year plan to learn, learn, learn and learn some more. I'm reading the books...but realising that they lack context without being able to track the market, watch the charts etc. So, I'm looking to buy a trading PC setup. Then, a dummy account.

Question: I'm an Apple Mac user but I assume PC windows is the way to go. Any tips on the gear I'll need and easy route into it?

Cheers!!

Paul
Suggestions toward a high powered budget. Further research required.

Note: I have no affiliation with any products mentioned. Products are mentioned by way of example. Most are free. Some are modestly priced.

CPU: Intel i5 or i7 or better. see - https://www.cpubenchmark.net/ for CPU comparisons.

Don't trusst PC World sales reps BS re so called fast AMD machines. If you must go AMD then check above link for an idea of pecking order.

Rather than trying to find a CPU in the above cpubenchmark link it may be be quicker to google 'Intel Core i7-950 3.07GH benchmark', etc.

Ram: 8-16GB. 16GB better.

Hard Drive: Solid State Drive (SSD) - an absolute must for speed.

If the machine comes with a HDD it can be eadily replaced with a SSD. It need not be a large SSD. For instance, on one of my trading machines I have a 250 GB Samsung 850 PRO SSD. Used space on the drive is 56.0 GB. 176 Free space. The SSD has on it Sierra Chart, Two MT4 platforms and two non-MT4 platforms, a few browsers, images, security software and some miscellaneous. A larger SSD is not required.

Hot-swop caddy: Further to the above, although it would depend on PC case accommodation, is a SSD hot-swop caddy. This enables the SSD to be remove from the external of the case. On weekend a disk image/ clone can be made of the current working drive to a second emergency replacement SSD. In the event of a disk failure or other malfunction the PC can be powered down and the faulty SSD immediately replaced with the emergency clone. See disk imaging/cloning - http://www.easeus.com/disk-copy/home-edition/

USB Hard Drive Docking Station If it is not possible to accommodate the clone drive in a second hot-swop caddy an alternative method for cloning is via USB Hard Drive Docking Station - see https://www.amazon.co.uk/ORICO-Docki.../dp/B00NP42PWE

Multiple Monitors: Two 22-24 inch or larger monitors. Multiple monitors besides other efficiencies affords a wider and deeper view of a chart.

If space and budget allows a second system with 40 inch TV wall mounted (or other arrangement) monitors for charting and duel desktop monitors for trading works out comfortable.

Multiple monitor software is a must for expanding a window across all monitors and other multiple monitor tasks - see Display Fusion or similar. https://www.displayfusion.com/

VGA: Separate and not integrated on motherboard if possible. Dependent on budget and requirement. Further research by self required.

Mouse and Keyboard: Mouse and Keyboard sharing between systems facilitates efficiency - See Synergy - https://symless.com/synergy/ . Works across multiple OS: Windows, Linux, Mac OS X. Garage mouse without borders ionly does windows - https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/down....aspx?id=35460

Systerm Resource Monitoring - see this post - http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...57#post8708357

Addware & Spyware: It is impossible to surf the web with windows without accumulating adware, spyware, crapware, malware etc. This impacts CPU resources and can cause a windows crash a most importune moment. See Sanboxie - https://www.sandboxie.com/ - or similar. Purchase is not necessary. Click Download at middle top >> Download at Sandboxie.

Futher to the above,if surfing outside a sandbox, windows needs a daily adware removal cleanup - see SuperAntiSpyware - http://www.superantispyware.com/ - or similar

Malwarebytes - https://www.malwarebytes.com/ - run once a week. Purchase not necessary. Click Free Download.

WARNING: beware of spyware software posing as antispyware, antiadware. Refer to trusted sources for reference. Due diligence required.

WARNING: Do not download from www.download.cnet.com or www.cnet.com. Downloads from these sites are loaded with crapware and spyware and the tenaciously difficult to remove opencandy. See wikipedia Opencandy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCandy

WARNING: When ever installing to window go -s-l-o-w-l-y and uncheck or check all required boxes to opt out of installing unwated crap. These options are desgned to trick the installer into choosing an unintended option.

Majorgeeks downloads up tp present has remained clean - http://www.majorgeeks.com/

Self Build: A self build would require a lot more research.
However, if you go down this route pay attention to Front Side Bus and it's replacemnt. The original front-side bus architecture has been replaced by HyperTransport, Intel QuickPath Interconnect or Direct Media Interface in modern volume CPUs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front-side_bus

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Old Dec 16, 2016, 12:33pm   #8
 
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Suggestions toward a high powered budget. Further research required.

Note: I have no affiliation with any products mentioned. Products are mentioned by way of example.

CPU: Intel i5 or i7 or better. see - https://www.cpubenchmark.net/ for CPU comparisons.

Don't trusst PC World sales reps BS re so called fast AMD machines. If you must go AMD then check above link for an idea of pecking order.

Rather than trying to find a CPU in the above cpubenchmark link it may be be quicker to google 'Intel Core i7-950 3.07GH benchmark', etc.

Ram: 8-16GB. 16GB better.

Hard Drive: Solid State Drive (SSD) - an absolute must for speed.

If the machine comes with a HDD it can be eadily replaced with a SSD. It need not be a large SSD. For instance, on one of my trading machines I have a 250 GB Samsung 850 PRO SSD. Used space on the drive is 56.0 GB. 176 Free space. The SSD has on it Sierra Chart, Two MT4 platforms and two non-MT4 platforms, a few browsers, images, security software and some miscellaneous. A larger SSD is not required.

Hot-swop caddy: Further to the above, although it would depend on PC case accommodation, is a SSD hot-swap caddy. This enables the SSD to be remove from the eternal of the case. On weekend a disk image/ clone can be made of the current working drive to a second emergency replacement SSD. In the event of a disk failure or other malfunction the PC can be powered down and the faulty SSD immediately replaced with the emergency clone. See disk imaging/cloning - http://www.easeus.com/disk-copy/index.htm

Multiple Monitors: Two 22-24 inch or larger monitors. Multiple monitors besides other efficiencies affords a wider and deeper view of a chart.

If space and budget allows a second system with 40 inch TV wall mounted (or other arrangement) monitors for charting and duel desktop monitors for trading works out comfortable.

Multiple monitor software is a must for expanding a window across all monitors and other multiple monitor tasks - see Display Fusion or similar. https://www.displayfusion.com/

VGA: Separate and not integrated on motherboard if possible. Dependent on budget and requirement. Further self research required.

Mouse and Keyboard: Mouse and Keyboard sharing between systems facilitates efficiency - See Synergy - https://symless.com/synergy/ . Works across multiple OS: Windows, Linux, Mac OS X. Garage mouse without borders ionly does windows - https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/down....aspx?id=35460

Systerm Resource Monitoring - see this post - http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...57#post8708357

Addware & Spyware: It is impossible to surf the web with windows without accumulating adware, spyware, crapware, malware etc. This impacts CPU resources and can cause a windows crash a most importune moment. See Sanboxie - https://www.sandboxie.com/ - or similar. Purchase is not necessary. Click Download at middle top >> Download at Sandboxie.

Futher to the above windows needs a daily adware removal cleanup - see SuperAntiSpyware - http://www.superantispyware.com/ - or similar
Malwarebytes - https://www.malwarebytes.com/ - run once a week. Purchase not necessary. Click Free Download.

WARNING: beware of spyware software posing as antispyware, antiadware. Refer to trusted sources for reference. Due diligence required.

WARNING: Do not download from www.download.cnet.com or www.cnet.com. Downloads from these sites are loaded with crapware and spyware and the tenaciously difficult to remove opencandy. See wikipedia Opencandy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCandy

WARNING: When ever installing to window go -s-l-o-w-l-y and uncheck or check all required boxes to opt out of installing unwated crap. These options are desgned to trick the installer into choosing an unintended option.
Majorgeeks downloads up tp present has remained clean - http://www.majorgeeks.com/

Self Build: A self build would require a lot more research.
However, if you go down this route pay attention to Front Side Bus and it's replacemnt. The original front-side bus architecture has been replaced by HyperTransport, Intel QuickPath Interconnect or Direct Media Interface in modern volume CPUs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front-side_bus
Excellent advice for the serious high-tech PC user. But if the OP is just starting out on trading I'd suggest that he reserves all his brainpower (and money) for his trading apprenticeship. As somebody has already said, any entry-level PC or family cast off would be good enough while you're learning. Once your trading is making loads of dosh, buying a fancy PC – if you really need one – won't be a problem.
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