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Old Jan 29, 2017, 9:30pm   #76
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I'd also like to add if any poster gets preferential treatment from a moderator/site owner/administrator that should be an immediate red flag warranting suspicion and skeptical inquiry. basically the longer a poster has been sheltered on a trading forum the more the trading forum has a vested interest and an inherent conflict-of-interest in protecting that poster.
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Old Jan 29, 2017, 9:53pm   #77
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I'd also like to add if any poster gets preferential treatment from a moderator/site owner/administrator that should be an immediate red flag warranting suspicion and skeptical inquiry. basically the longer a poster has been sheltered on a trading forum the more the trading forum has a vested interest and an inherent conflict-of-interest in protecting that poster.
So glad I don't inhabit you're fantasy world.

I'm pretty sure the membership would agree "I don't cut anyone any slack"
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So glad I don't inhabit you're fantasy world.

I'm pretty sure the membership would agree "I don't cut anyone any slack"
"your" you mean. Regarding double standards and bad attitudes, read above conersation with timsk.
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"your" you mean. Regarding double standards and bad attitudes, read above conersation with timsk.
"conversation"

I guess the trading isn't going too well !
How long have you been doing this ?
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A little over 5 years since I started swing trading leading to day trading. Although I lost huge long ago as a teenager with penny stocks as well, so I could say 6-7 years if I wanted to self-promote like a lot of folks do. You?
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A little over 5 years since I started swing trading leading to day trading. Although I lost huge long ago as a teenager with penny stocks as well, so I could say 6-7 years if I wanted to self-promote like a lot of folks do. You?
About 12 yrs on and off, and even then, part time, usually in blocks or around political events.

It does take a long time to really suss out what matters and to put all the pieces together. Even when flying, it's possible to get hit by a sidewinder. Have to be on guard at all times.
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I'd also like to add if any poster gets preferential treatment from a moderator/site owner/administrator that should be an immediate red flag warranting suspicion and skeptical inquiry.
Agreed. And it doesn't happen here (see c_v's comment about cutting some slack).

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basically the longer a poster has been sheltered on a trading forum the more the trading forum has a vested interest and an inherent conflict-of-interest in protecting that poster.
Potentially, you're correct. However, we have an extremely effective measure in place to ensure this never happens. Staff (like me) and Moderators (like c_v) operate completely independently of one another. The latter live and breathe by the Community Constitution and anyone - regardless of whether they are staff or long term members like dbphoenix - have to abide by it. Breaches of it are dealt completely impartially by the Mods.

There are precious few perks to being a Mod and, one of their rare joys is having the opportunity to edit or delete a post by a member of staff. So, if anything, Mods are harder on staff than they are on non-staff members. This is as it should be, not least to help avoid the very criticism you're making here.

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Regarding double standards and bad attitudes, read above conersation with timsk.
There are no double standards for the reasons outlined above. If there's anything in any of my posts to this thread or elsewhere that makes you think otherwise, kindly highlight them and I will gladly add clarity to any points made and do whatever else I can to correct this most unfortunate and completely false impression.
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Alot of misunderstanding here . Even if a member did abide by the t2w constitution that doesn't mean he/she cant be criticized . The posts here arent asking for a certain member to be banned , there's a big difference .
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. In the meantime, we all get to benefit from their immense knowledge and trading expertise. T2W and it's members are the net winners here.
Immense knowledge and trading expertise?

Someone needs to look up the definition of the word Charlatan.

And also look up Gullible while you are it.

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Immense knowledge and trading expertise?

Someone needs to look up the definition of the word Charlatan.

And also look up Gullible while you are it.
Hopefully dbphoenix gets a tradingschools.org review. That would be a first, a forum hobo without a website but review worthy nonetheless, due to how he APPEARS to have immense knowledge and trading expertise to exactly the people timsk has a vested interest in making a good first impression on - new traders and new subscribers.
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Old Jan 30, 2017, 12:32pm   #86
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I'd also like to add if any poster gets preferential treatment from a moderator/site owner/administrator that should be an immediate red flag warranting suspicion and skeptical inquiry. basically the longer a poster has been sheltered on a trading forum the more the trading forum has a vested interest and an inherent conflict-of-interest in protecting that poster.

Nobody who posts on a public forum is sheltering or being sheltered - quite the opposite - we each put our heads high up above the parapet every time we post. And this forum offers no protection from those who wish to shoot it off, within standard forum rules of conduct.

But if I have an opinion about trading, and express it here, you are totally entitled to say my evidence is inaccurate, or my analysis flawed, you can suggest I'm lying for some reason, or that I have just made an obvious mistake. Other forum users might agree with you and conclude I am a right prat. Or maybe that you are. I don't draw that conclusion.

But you are 100% wrong to suggest that the forum operates with any responsibility to maintaining my presence here over anyone else's and equally wrong in the converse implication that I might post things purely for the benefit or pleasure of the forum staff / mods. I say what I like and some of those things will offend those I wish to offend. Take your "preferential treatment" and use it as a stop.
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Nobody who posts on a public forum is sheltering or being sheltered - quite the opposite - we each put our heads high up above the parapet every time we post. And this forum offers no protection from those who wish to shoot it off, within standard forum rules of conduct.

But if I have an opinion about trading, and express it here, you are totally entitled to say my evidence is inaccurate, or my analysis flawed, you can suggest I'm lying for some reason, or that I have just made an obvious mistake. Other forum users might agree with you and conclude I am a right prat. Or maybe that you are. I don't draw that conclusion.

But you are 100% wrong to suggest that the forum operates with any responsibility to maintaining my presence here over anyone else's and equally wrong in the converse implication that I might post things purely for the benefit or pleasure of the forum staff / mods. I say what I like and some of those things will offend those I wish to offend. Take your "preferential treatment" and use it as a stop.
But you are 100% wrong to not process and digest how timsk showed bias in favor of dbphoenix against me in this thread, which suggests 99% that this is a pattern repeating itself rather than an isolated incident of bias in favor of dbphoenix at the expense of other community members.
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But you are 100% wrong to not process and digest how timsk showed bias in favor of dbphoenix against me in this thread, which suggests 99% that this is a pattern repeating itself rather than an isolated incident of bias in favor of dbphoenix at the expense of other community members.

I don't see bias against you from timsk. If you have criticism of the behaviour of another poster, the burden is on you to bring forward something to substantiate what you are saying. That might seem like a bias against you but you must have come across this in every other field of life - if you wish to say something is not right, you will be asked to prove why.

However, rather than do that, you went on to talk about "any poster" getting preferential treatment, specifically long-term members. That would include me and I take offence at your suggestion that I am in some sort of cartel with the forum to allow me to be treated preferentially over anyone. If I wished to make the sort of criticisms you have, of dbphoenix, and timsk, and by extension of me, I would expect even after 14 years of membership, that I would have to come up with some pretty rigorous arguments in my favour. Certainly, better than yours.
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I don't see bias against you from timsk. If you have criticism of the behaviour of another poster, the burden is on you to bring forward something to substantiate what you are saying. That might seem like a bias against you but you must have come across this in every other field of life - if you wish to say something is not right, you will be asked to prove why.

However, rather than do that, you went on to talk about "any poster" getting preferential treatment, specifically long-term members. That would include me and I take offence at your suggestion that I am in some sort of cartel with the forum to allow me to be treated preferentially over anyone. If I wished to make the sort of criticisms you have, of dbphoenix, and timsk, and by extension of me, I would expect even after 14 years of membership, that I would have to come up with some pretty rigorous arguments in my favour. Certainly, better than yours.
The accusations by respected and veteran members of other trading forums and the action taken by site owner Baron on Elitetrader speaks for itself as a strong argument against dbphoenix, as does the Futures.io banishment. Timsk's ad hominem suggestion that me mentioning this shows my poor character and that the cloud of suspicion over dbphoenix is wishy-washy clearly suggests favortism more than weak argumentation on my part.
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The accusations by respected and veteran members of other trading forums and the action taken by site owner Baron on Elitetrader speaks for itself as a strong argument against dbphoenix, as does the Futures.io banishment. Timsk's ad hominem suggestion that me mentioning this shows my poor character and that the cloud of suspicion over dbphoenix is wishy-washy clearly suggests favortism more than weak argumentation on my part.

Bans elsewhere mean nothing to me, I deal with people as I find them. timsk is right to be sceptical of hearsay evidence when we cannot have access to the full facts of each case. So am I. In any event, we're concerned with what's happening here and now, not some other place in some other circumstances.
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