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Old Nov 5, 2016, 3:23pm   #9
 
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Coach, mentor, teacher, instructor, snake oil salesman, decent well intention nice guy, etc if you add these (& a whole raft of other names) to my post, it still won't make a jot of difference to my point.
Perhaps not. But then your point is not necessarily valid. Few people are wired to trade. But this does not mean that they cannot be rewired, either with help or without.

Few beginners have the intelligence, the drive, and the curiosity to succeed. Rather they look for recipes. A great many of them can't or won't even do simple Google searches. So they sign up for this or that with whomever then whine that they got scammed. None of this means, however, that it must be do-it-yourself. Re-inventing the wheel every single time is ludicrous.
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Perhaps not. But then your point is not necessarily valid. Few people are wired to trade. But this does not mean that they cannot be rewired, either with help or without.

Few beginners have the intelligence, the drive, and the curiosity to succeed. Rather they look for recipes. A great many of them can't or won't even do simple Google searches. So they sign up for this or that with whomever then whine that they got scammed. None of this means, however, that it must be do-it-yourself. Re-inventing the wheel every single time is ludicrous.
eh ! reinventing the wheel ?

My point is to learn the ropes yourself, get to know yourself, get to know what makes yourself tick, I fail to see how this is an invalid point.
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eh ! reinventing the wheel ?

My point is to learn the ropes yourself, get to know yourself, get to know what makes yourself tick, I fail to see how this is an invalid point.
The point to which I was referring was "If someone is looking for someone to mentor them in their mind set, then they should not tackle the markets, full stop." If this were true, there would be no need for counseling. How does one "learn the ropes himself"? How does one "get to know himself"? The idea that all of this can be done without any help whatsoever is unrealistic. Granted the "help" that one receives on message boards may not be the best, but that doesn't mean that all help is useless.
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The point to which I was referring was "If someone is looking for someone to mentor them in their mind set, then they should not tackle the markets, full stop." If this were true, there would be no need for counseling. How does one "learn the ropes himself"? How does one "get to know himself"? The idea that all of this can be done without any help whatsoever is unrealistic. Granted the "help" that one receives on message boards may not be the best, but that doesn't mean that all help is useless.
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The point to which I was referring was "If someone is looking for someone to mentor them in their mind set, then they should not tackle the markets, full stop." If this were true, there would be no need for counseling. How does one "learn the ropes himself"? How does one "get to know himself"? The idea that all of this can be done without any help whatsoever is unrealistic. Granted the "help" that one receives on message boards may not be the best, but that doesn't mean that all help is useless.
With all due respect Db I feel this will go around in circles, I know you know what I am driving at, I am not saying all help whahtsoever is useless, but I get it that you may want the last word.

How does one learn the ropes ?
How does one get to know himself ?

You have the intelligence that you project, so you know it is through life experience & the gaining of knowledge through this experience that will answer your questions (that I know you know the answer to )

Sure we pick up tips here & there, even from message boards... but mentors & coaches....?
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With all due respect Db I feel this will go around in circles, I know you know what I am driving at, but I get it that you may want the last word.

How does one learn the ropes ?
How does one get to know himself ?

You have the intelligence that you project, so you know it is through life experience & the gaining of knowledge through this experience that will answer your questions (that I know you know the answer to )

Sure we pick up tips here & there, even from message boards... but mentors & coaches....?
I couldn't care less about having the last word. But I've been at this for forty years, and I know well that not everyone can learn what he needs to learn all by himself. If you have, congratulations. You are exceptional.
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Hence db has a vested interest in this as a coach himself i fail to see the objectivity in his posts here.

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I couldn't care less about having the last word. But I've been at this for forty years, and I know well that not everyone can learn what he needs to learn all by himself. If you have, congratulations. You are exceptional.
Soooo, I come back to my original point, if someone does not have the nous to work out "most" of what they need to know by themselves, they should not be putting their cash on the line in the market, full stop.

Full respect to your forty years, I do genuinely think you are a very well meaning & positive guy, successful philanthropist maybe.

This game is a potential fools gold graveyard, if someone is a half wit, they will not be taught to play the markets, they will end up in't pit !
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