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Old Feb 25, 2008, 3:35pm   #33
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dont think u can lean on on any bid or offer in the schatz under my opinion the vast majority of the market is manipulated by 1-2 massive guys. same in bobl. anything above 2000 in shatz has a big percentage of flipping. i ve heard scalping days in schatz are over
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Old Feb 25, 2008, 5:43pm   #34
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dont think u can lean on on any bid or offer in the schatz under my opinion the vast majority of the market is manipulated by 1-2 massive guys. same in bobl. anything above 2000 in shatz has a big percentage of flipping. i ve heard scalping days in schatz are over

Well you heard wrong. Lots of money to be made scalping the book in bund bobl and yes even schatz. Its true these markets are dominated by a few big players (I know the 2 you are probably talking about personally). All markets are usually dominated by a few larger players though.

Obviously you don't want to be stepping infront of big bids/offers randomly, it is a little more complicated than that. It takes time and skill to prefect it but once you know half way what you are doing you will find that it isn't hard but it sure as hell isn't easy!

I looked at my charts very little today and most of all my trading was off of the book and I just finished up with one of my better days I have ever had!

Hope everyone is having a good trading day!
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 7:41am   #35
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ok fair enough if it works for you. out of interest who do you think those 2 guys are? I am trading bund outrights btw quite a while now
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 9:25am   #36
 
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Right, it's IFO up in 40 minutes.

The rumour is of 101 which is considerably lower which should therefore be positive for Bunds.

Buying coming in on the Bunds now as traders position for this possibly lower report.

I think the best way to play this is to look for it to come in higher which will force all longs to cover and all those on the sidelines to go short.

Should be good for a few ticks.

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Old Feb 26, 2008, 9:48am   #37
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with this dax if IFO comes inline the upside its over i agree
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 10:02am   #38
 
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Right, it's IFO up in 40 minutes.

The rumour is of 101 which is considerably lower which should therefore be positive for Bunds.

Buying coming in on the Bunds now as traders position for this possibly lower report.

I think the best way to play this is to look for it to come in higher which will force all longs to cover and all those on the sidelines to go short.

Should be good for a few ticks.

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Good for 21 ticks!!
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 10:04am   #39
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008, 11:12am   #40
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One of my cardinal rules: no positions ahead of news. I was short - 21 points then bottle went; re-entered on continuation for another 8. Pure luck, could have gone the other way. There's a lesson.

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