John Bartlett Interview


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John Bartlett

11 Apr, 2003

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John Bartlett, through this interview, provides new traders an excellent direction as they pursue their own development.

Starting Out

How long have you been trading for?
Approximately four years. 1st year foolishly, 2nd year not so foolishly (started to study), 3rd year break even and this year profitably.

How did you first get involved in trading?
My background is financial services, about 10 years prior to finding trading I dabbled in traded options, I lost interest when it didn't make me rich in a few weeks, I blew my trial bank and forgot about it, continued selling executive pension schemes and and a friend sent me a mail shot from someone charging a lot of money to teach spread betting on futures and shares. It started from there, I spent money on a very poor A4 folder and an out of focus video! At least it started me thinking. With my knowledge of the internet I investigated further, opened an account with a spread betting company and promptly lost five figures in the first six months.

Do you remember your first trades?
Yes over the phone, 5 per point on the Dow, bet long, and it went long, I was up at one stage about 240 and hung on, I ended up at the end of trading showing (as Pan Am used to say) with a negative profit of about 120, and the next day I chased it!!

What were your first few months like? Were you profitable initially?
No I was not, but I always have had certain inward control. I set aside my trading bank, had my up and down days , started to overtrade and get emotionally involved, all the things that relatively new traders do. Luckily I had a reasonably steady income from my agency work. So it didn't take very long before I realised it was not so easy as I first thought.

Has your trading style changed radically from when you first started?
100%! I started day trading and now I position trade; I tried too hard when I first began; I was amazed at my ability to move world markets with my 2 per point bet! Especially in the opposite direction. I thought I could trade by reading the papers, listening to Bloomberg and CNN; I knew very little about technical analysis, or for that matter about trading.

How did you learn to trade?
When I realised what a real prat I was making of myself, I thought I would look around and get some help. What I found was in the UK there was very little available for the real beginner. Yes there were day courses from about 2,000 a day to 5,000 for a week, Most of these were teaching the Holy Grail and secret systems!! In my opinion a complete rip off. I didn't want to spend that type of money, I spent over 200 on a postal course, very poor. So I started to buy books on the subject (I now have over 50) recommended books, most far too theoretical, very few practical. I also am very familiar with the internet so I spent my time learning and sorting out the wheat from the chaff, or waffle from the facts. It was just time, and sticking to it. Its amazing what you can do if you are interested in a subject. I was.

Are you a self-taught trader, or did another trader teach you worthwhile lessons?
Totally self-taught, although I have been to trading seminars run by various companies, free and paid for they are all trying to get you to open an account or buy this or that system. I thought the insurance industry was full of wise guys but they are saints compared to some trading related companies sorry if Ive been too critical, but..

Trading In Practice

What markets do you trade?
I trade the US markets in the main, Dow & Nasdaq, I specialise in trading US Shares. The hours are more civilised and the information more freely available, which saves a lot of time. Im a technical analyist, not fundamentalist, but I believe a combination of both is acceptable.

What is your basic approach in analysing and trading the markets?
Its important not to overdo this area, as you can spend a lifetime looking and not trading. Simply I trade US shares that are: above $10, below $50, have a turnover of 1,000,000 shares traded daily, and most importantly are actually traded by the spread betting company I am using. I list these in watch lists, using the best websites in the States which produce me these lists (in graph form) every day. Or when I decide to trade two or three times a week. I look for increasing or decreasing volumes on previous days, I select about six likely candidates to study in more detail. It usually takes me a couple of hours. But most of the work is done by these fantastic websites. Then apply about 10 indicators to each one. Trade the best of them I only trade one share at a time. But I may also dabble the Dow during the day for a bit of fun.

How would you define your trading style?
Position/Swing Trader mainly. Although if Im at my computer during the day I will trade the Dow and the FTSE indices for fun but not usually more than 5 per point.

How often do you make a trade?
Difficult one! I only trade one share at a time, I always use safety. I recheck my positions nightly, so I stay if alls still OK so it could be once a week or it could be 3 times a week. When trading for fun on the Dow (by the way - its always serious never for real fun!) and Im working from home maybe 2 or 3 times in a day max.

Do you prefer to trade long or short and why?
I prefer short I suppose its down to Newton really it's quite natural for things to fall. Also being a pilot and pointing your aircraft straight up its a lot easier to tell when you run out of steam! And then there is only one way to go!

How do you pick your trades?
Basic Screening as described above, but then close technical analysis with my preferred indicators. Trend, MACDs, Stochastics (Slow), OBV, Bollanger , DMI and one of my favourites - Williams %R. and a few others. When they are moving my way I trade.

Is there anything you can single out as the most important element in deciding to put on a trade?
Calculate the maximum loss you are prepared to take if the trade goes wrong; apply stops on every trade, no matter how big or small every trade!

Do you use trading systems?
No, they dont work however if you can point me in a direction of a trading system that does, and that can control my emotions at the same time Ill spend a serious amount of money and Ill be first in the line. Ive tried a lot of them, so Im not speaking without knowledge. But if just one worked 100% of the time there would be no stock exchange would there? Think about it!

How much do you risk on any single trade?
At last a simple question max of 5% of my fund on any one trade or less. I have a number of accounts and the same applies to each one, governed by meticulous record keeping after each trade, whether successful or not.

Do you use stop or limit orders?
Stops EVERY time, limit orders dependent upon the circumstances

Do you use chart patterns such as reversals and breakouts?
Thats a bit simplistic but Yes, amongst others

Do you use Level 2 data to trade?
No. It's hard enough to learn proper trading with spreadbetting. Level 2 requires a great deal of concentration, Its alright if you have the concentration of a rocket scientist and the bladder of a camel (quote - Toni Turner). No. I like space and time. It's just not for me - too demanding, walking the dogs matters more!

Do you decide where you are getting out before you get in on a trade?
No but you never go broke taking a profit no matter how small, and I never look over my shoulder.

How do you decide when to take profits?
When the decisions I made to enter the trade no longer apply simple!

Is slippage/bad fills a problem in your trading?
No. You learn to live with varying spreads in volatile markets you dont have to accept the quote.

Do you use the opinions of other traders in making trading decisions, or do you operate completely solo?
Completely 100% solo Ive then only got one person to blame if it goes wrong.

Trading The Theory

What are the trading rules you live by?
Money Management Money Management Money Management. I co-wrote some software on the subject a couple of years ago you can download a trial free from Control your own finances first.

Do you believe chart reading can be used for successful trading?
Yes properly trained technical analysis works but not Tarot cards, stars or glass balls!

Are there any technical indicators that you have found to be particularly valuable?
Williams % R I found gives excellent results used properly thanks Larry Williams - but there are many good ones

What are your thoughts about using fundamental analysis as an input in trading?
If you deal in shares as I do it's important to look at simplistic fundamentals on each share but not in detail like PE ratios etc. With crafty accountants in big companies and dodgy directors involved, a big pinch of salt is sometimes required. I never make a decision on fundamentals, thats for long term investors Im a trader.

Do you ever use contrary opinion as an aid to trading?

How important is having a sound risk/money-management philosophy?
Forget trading if you dont have it it's the no.1 priority. Its the only thing, otherwise why are you trading? The market is an expensive place to find out you cant handle money!

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