Thoughts?
Why doesn't he trade like a professional and use the market like an ATM instead of looking for training fees ?
I vaguely remember from somewhere that winners amongst professionals are not as high a percentage as one would imagine. So learning to be a professional is no guarantee for success.
He was doing free seminars with ETX a while back to get sign up to SB..I went along as I was at a loose end/it was local to me, it's such an exotic name, and I needed a new mouse mat and thought there would be a few obligatory freebies going and if not - I set myself the challenge of nicking one anyway.
Why doesn't he trade like a professional and use the market like an ATM instead of looking for training fees ?
I have got to admit the case of Anton is a bizzarre one. If I recall correctly he has golman sachs, lehman and jp morgan on his CV. It really is strange to pitch to newbies in this way. What I have learnt from some of my aquaintances who are instituional traders is that the information and tools they have at their disposal give them a considerable edge that cannot be used outside of the bank. Lets say they trade a commodity spread and have access to specific relevant flow order info, zero transaction costs you can see how they have a big edge. Also a risk manager who will remove emotion when you are unable to. I guess remove these tools and a former bank trader may struggle on the outside dunno its just bizarre like I said.
In reality, they only have a tiny edge, which is of no benefit to a private trader.
that doesn't tally with my homework on institutional traders. one commodity trader I regularly speak to (works for large IB) say they focus on markets (Real or synthetic) where they have the greatest edge. 2 straight losing weeks and their card is already marked, back onto paper trading and increased supervision.
But does this edge still exist if they were trading their own account from home/in private?
At the end of the day, if these guys are so good that they get marked after 2 weeks, why would they stay there once they knew what they were doing? Logic says its because their financial cut from the edge (even a tiny edge) they have (at an IB) is greater than they can generate on their own in private.
in this case it wouldn't be as the order flow information which is shared interbank is not accessible to the public.
yes I concur. the IB's hire in young, qualified, intelligent team players who are green. Train them up, put them into am experienced small team. Team has access to fundamental and technical analysts. Team has access to order flow. i.e. middle eastern chap calls up looking to hedge a **** load of something. Team has risk manager who keeps everyone in check, emotions don't take over. team focuses on non directional trades where they have the best edge.
if said trader leaves he is on his todd. his chances of success are clearly much higher due to his training but he still has to work his edge without the order flow info and manage his own risk.
And let's not forget. Your mate at bank x gets 120k a year whether his 'trading' makes money or not.
sure the lack of monetary pressure really helps. make no mistake though 2 losing weeks on the bounce and you will be put on sim, keep on down that route and you would be out 3 months tops.
Are you sure this is a bank?
I've never known an investment bank put a single person on "sim".
All I've ever seen (in the 3 top tier banks i've worked at) were desks with people, then desks with empty chairs.
My last place favoured approach was if you went down more than 3%, you were simply met by the trading floor doors (if you took a toilet break) by HR and legal and told that your stuff would be couriered home.
............... He proceeded to try and impress us with his so called oscillators and pinbars .............