Thanks for the info. I tried to sign up with ADVEN yesterday, but had a bad experience with an 0870 premium number, you know hanging on for ages, thinking there was nobody at the other end or they've gone to lunch. I try not to use services that use premium numbers. Anyway I called them twice today and they answered straight away both times, so I signed up. I use City Index for my CFDs and Quotestream for British shares etc.