Brexit and the Consequences

I see a pub is offering a brexit beer deal that may appeal to you. “tell the staff what you would like and they will serve you something else”
 
Nobody said it would be a walk in the park, in the longer term it's got to be a better deal to be out.
Meanwhile, the so called Queen of Scotland cowering in the background can scuttle between Corbyn and the gnomes of Brussels to do her worst.
I find it absolutely outrageous that she should want to split the union - the brave souls of the past who fought for the Union must be turning in their graves.
 
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Minority interest Eurosceptics have done what exactly?

Billions of potential investments have been postponed.
As they were immediately BEFORE joining the EU - the people thwarting a clean fast exit are to blame for this.

Transaction cost for businesses raised soon to be followed by price increases.
When Spain / Germany / Italy ... joined the EURO prices were increased by unscrupulous retailers, they will use any excuse to hike prices and make the public pay more.

Pound crashing to 1.20 against the dollar reducing UK's purchasing power on the world stage.
Which will make UK companies more profitable when dealing with foreign competitors this is a good thing for the UK. Trump is trying to force the FED to devalue the dollar, we get it for free with brexit.

Existing industries leaving the UK.
Industry - UK ??? :LOL:

Future businesses thinking of locating in the UK changing plans. Unless ofcourse you are Amazon, Google or FB and simply don't want to pay any tax and employ low end low skill personnel.
So companies leaving the UK due to brexit is a bad thing (your previous point) and companies coming to the UK due to brexit is a bad thing!

What have Brexiteers delivered thus far? Who believes in their promises to deliver global bi-lateral deals that's going to make us better than what we have now?
Companies always find ways to make money no matter what regulations apply, any who cant adapt will fail and new more competitive ones will take their place that is the nature of business.
Change is necessary and good, don't be afraid of it!



Undermine national interest indeed! LOL
 
To paraphrase the great man: The only thing we have to fear is Project Fear itself!
 
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How to get Soros'ified

 
Could it be that UKGov doesn't have a clue about the legal position that we have been signed into EU Military Unification, those EU lawyers must be laughing their *ocks off :unsure: . Starts around 7:45.

 
Minority interest Eurosceptics have done what exactly?

Billions of potential investments have been postponed.
As they were immediately BEFORE joining the EU - the people thwarting a clean fast exit are to blame for this.
Are you able to provide evidence to backup this claim? UK was the sick man of Europe losing industries and to competition prior to joining EU in early 70s. Took 11 years to join. Post WWII production and UK growth was behind other faster growing EU member economies.

Transaction cost for businesses raised soon to be followed by price increases.
When Spain / Germany / Italy ... joined the EURO prices were increased by unscrupulous retailers, they will use any excuse to hike prices and make the public pay more.
You are not being fair here. UK is not switching currency. Just simply losing purchasing power. Obviously EU businesses decided to round up. UK prices will go up due to currency slide. No choice but to pass on costs unless they wish to give in on their profit margins.

Pound crashing to 1.20 against the dollar reducing UK's purchasing power on the world stage.
Which will make UK companies more profitable when dealing with foreign competitors this is a good thing for the UK. Trump is trying to force the FED to devalue the dollar, we get it for free with brexit.
On the whole UK Exports > exceed > Imports. BoP current account is almost always negative. Net effect will be for UK to lose.


Existing industries leaving the UK.
Industry - UK ??? :LOL:
Motor industry is a key area. Nisan will say decision is not based on Brexit because if they said due to Brexit they are likely to take sides in a 50/50 argument and alienate potential customers. If you have existing production, workforce and state of the art factories why would you want to set up a new factory, coupled with skills, training and cost of setup when a perfectly production base already exists. Most of the parts remain the same simply a differnt engine and control boxes change.

You can add Parhmacuticals, EBA and EMA, EuroClearing and a % of most banks to that list as well. HSBC have already made plans to move 10% of workforce.


Future businesses thinking of locating in the UK changing plans. Unless ofcourse you are Amazon, Google or FB and simply don't want to pay any tax and employ low end low skill personnel.
So companies leaving the UK due to brexit is a bad thing (your previous point) and companies coming to the UK due to brexit is a bad thing!
Which companies moving to UK due to Brexit? Please help me see. Companies may locate here for low corporate tax but EU already drafting plans on taxing these big digital corporations on where money is earned. You can expect EU and US and UK to have some big ding dongs soon enough. AND yes future companies should a hard Brexit occur will avoid UK due to cost of getting goods and services into EU. You are being premature. Let's wait and see.

What have Brexiteers delivered thus far? Who believes in their promises to deliver global bi-lateral deals that's going to make us better than what we have now?
Companies always find ways to make money no matter what regulations apply, any who cant adapt will fail and new more competitive ones will take their place that is the nature of business.
Hmmm looking at North of England which was rich in Ship building, textiles and pottery and steel not so hot now. Industry will always navigate to be close to source / centre of market and purchasing power. Words sound nice but can you demonstrate any killer industries much beyond Birmingham.

Change is necessary and good, don't be afraid of it! Change is a necessary aspect of life yes but it is NOT always for the good. Nice words to put an optimistic spin on events, but some changes require monumental human effort to rectify blunders and have consequences either way.


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Change is necessary and good, don't be afraid of it! Change is a necessary aspect of life yes but it is NOT always for the good. Nice words to put an optimistic spin on events, but some changes require monumental human effort to rectify blunders and have consequences either way.


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Looks like we have a monumental effort to leave the EU following the blunder that took us in.
 
Looks like we have a monumental effort to leave the EU following the blunder that took us in.

LOL some may say the blunder was the arrogance of some politicians thinking Britain was superior to other European member states after many hundreds of years of perpetual conflict culminating in two horrific World Wars.

Tough call history is not always perceived objectively.
 
LOL some may say the blunder was the arrogance of some politicians thinking Britain was superior to other European member states after many hundreds of years of perpetual conflict culminating in two horrific World Wars.

Possibly true, however, the world changed dramatically post WW2, we are still a large economy and excel in many fields, we still do punch above our weight for the size of land mass we *control*. However, as the last 47 years has exposed, our political class has turned into a sham, no longer able to lead us effectively, the trust between the public and politicians has been broken as a result of our subservience to the EU, we no longer excel in the democracy field, since the invasion of the Normans we have never been conquered, we have always had self determination and enough defence to protect ourselves. within 100 years the world is changing again as a result of many factors, a new socio-political epoch is dawning.

Tough call history is not always perceived objectively.

Even when attempts to rewrite it are made.
 
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Anyone else noticed that the supermarket shelves are looking a bit bare these days ?
People are stocking up with food probably !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Anyone else noticed that the supermarket shelves are looking a bit bare these days ?
People are stocking up with food probably !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Local farm shops are always fully stocked with local goodies, organic, local, supporting local farmers and growers, a tad more expensive for some items, but healthier for body and environment.
 
Anyone else noticed that the supermarket shelves are looking a bit bare these days ?
People are stocking up with food probably !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Watch out, a few loonies that post here will not have any medicine soon, they might start posting nonsense. ... mind you, could we tell the difference?
 
. within 100 years the world is changing again as a result of many factors, a new socio-political epoch is dawning.

Can the hidebound old Allied powers compete as they now are ? I think they are on a losing streak and need to change and soon. It is showing from the politicians now that they soon won't have the EU umbrella to shelter under. They haven't a clue as to what to do. Democracy and the multi party system is wobbling under the intense competition from China etc.



Even when attempts to rewrite it are made.
 
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