Trading Systems Art of War – Can it be Applied to Trading?

Introduction

Many traders think that to make consistent profits in the markets, all you need is a holy grail. From my experience, a trading methodology or system is only one of the ingredients of success. The advancement of technology blinds us into thinking that all we need to be successful is state-of-the-art kit and the latest software. After all, banks fit into this category and they tend to do pretty well. However, technical wizardry is only of value if you know what to do with it. Does Warren Buffett rely on the latest technology to make his investments, or does he put his faith and his money into time tested principles of yesteryear? Modern technology is a useful tool for many traders, but to ensure it’s used wisely and to full advantage, they may benefit from studying some military principles dating back to around BC500.

The Art of War is an ancient Chinese military treatise attributed to Sun Tzu (also referred to as "Sun Wu" and "Sunzi"), a high-ranking military general, strategist and tactician. Regarded as a classic military text, it was thought to have been compiled during what is known as the ‘Era of Warring States’, which resulted in a unified China under the Qin Dynasty. What does war have to do with trading? Well, the two are comparable in many ways. Soldiers fight the battle, but it’s the thinking and decision making processes of the generals and politicians that tend to win (or lose) the war. Similarly, traders require computers and fancy software to execute their trades, but it’s their ability to assess the markets and how well they execute their trading plan that results in profit or loss.

Like war, trading is a brutal game. Generally speaking, for every winner there are one or more losers. To help ensure you are on the right side of this divide, it may pay you to consider the principles contained in The Art of War. What follows is just a selection, not the complete book, and your interpretations of the text may be different from those offered here. For clarity, the principles are divided into four sections.

Section 1: Purpose

If you are to progress beyond the initial learning stage, a mere desire to make money is not enough. Your trading must have a clear purpose.

Section 2: Market Condition

Do you know who your enemies are?

Section 3: Strategy

The importance and value of having a proper trading methodology or strategy

Section 4: Trading Routine

What is your daily trading routine?



Section 1: Purpose

1. The Art of War
“Maintaining the goodwill of the people is essential to win the battle.”

Applied to trading – The people of a nation will support a war if it has a clear purpose and benefit to them. Similarly, as a trader, just wanting to make some money and have a better lifestyle isn’t a strong enough purpose to sustain you through the inevitable trials and tribulations that lie ahead. A more personal goal is needed; one which really excites and motivates you.

2. The Art of War“In battle, where there is no retreat or surrender, soldiers will have nothing to be afraid of and there will be nothing that they can’t achieve.”

Applied to trading – As a trader, you must have a winning mindset and focus on the big picture. Do not allow small setbacks in the form of inevitable drawdowns to shake your confidence or weaken your resolve.

3. The Art of War“Maintaining the momentum of troops during war is important.”

Applied to trading – Try to maintain your momentum and do not get sidetracked and depressed after a string of losers or overexcited after a string of winners.

4. The Art of War“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”

Applied to trading – Understand the strengths and weaknesses of your methodology and your ability to execute it well. Add more positions once the market confirms your trade direction. If in any doubt, either get out or reduce your position size.



Section 2 – Market Condition

1. The Art of War
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Applied to trading – Once you understand the current state of the market, you’ll have a better idea of how to trade it. Determine whether it is a bull market, bear market or a range bound market. Also, assessing the volatility is crucial in order to determine position size and stop placement. Equally, you must know your own strengths and weaknesses and how you can capitalise on the former and cap the latter in any market condition.

2. The Art of War“To know your Enemy, you must become your Enemy.”

Applied to trading – To really understand the current state of the market, you need to think like everyone else, see what they see and feel what they feel. But, you don’t have to act the way they act.

3. The Art of War“For should the enemy strengthen his van, he will weaken his rear; should he strengthen his rear, he will weaken his van; should he strengthen his left, he will weaken his right; should he strengthen his right, he will weaken his left. If he sends reinforcements everywhere, he will everywhere be weak.”

Applied to trading – You need to adapt to the prevailing market condition and trade an appropriate methodology. There’s no point utilising a trend following strategy based on a moving average cross-over in a range bound market.



Section 3 - Strategy

1. The Art of War
– “Outwit the enemy instead of trying to outfight the enemy.”

Applied to trading – Trying to outfight the market is sheer folly. You will lose. For example, if you risk 50 pips for a gain of just 5 pips, you may have a series of small wins, but you’ll end up giving back all your profits and more in one or two losing trades.

2. The Art of War“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”

Applied to trading – Take two traders who make the same amount of money using same capital in the same amount of time. The better trader is the one who has fewer trades and lower transaction costs and spends less time gazing at their computer screen.

3. The Art of War“Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.”

Applied to trading – Traders don’t need to trade every day or every minute to make money. Always wait for correct setup before entering the market.

4. The Art of War – “In battle, use a direct attack to engage and an indirect attack to distract enemy attention.”

Applied to trading – Always look at the major trend. When there is pull back in prices, don’t assume that it is a change of trend. Trading with the trend will increase your chances of success.

5. The Art of War – “Use attack to exploit victory, never use attack to rescue defeat.”

Applied to trading - Do not add to a losing position in the hope of being able to average out. Only ever add to profitable trades.

6. The Art of War – “Victory comes from deep thinking and detailed calculation.”

Applied to trading – If you try and trade a methodology that you don’t understand fully (e.g. someone else’s) or one that hasn’t been properly thought out and tested (e.g. your own) – then most likely you will fail.



Section 4 - Trading Routine

1. The Art of War
“Superior command structure within the army.”

Applied to trading – You need to organise and structure your trading to ensure you’re doing the right thing at the right time. For that, you need a detailed trading plan. Every ‘t’ must be crossed and every ‘i’ must be dotted to ensure that mistakes are kept to a minimum. This will help to minimise losses and maximise profits.

2. The Art of War“Even the finest sword plunged into salt water will eventually rust.”

Applied to trading – Even the best traders will crumble if there is no support from those around them. Do not allow your desire to trade to have a negative impact on your family and friends, otherwise you run the risk of losing them.



In Summary

The Art of War by Sun Tzu has inspired lots of people from many different walks of life and disciplines, ranging from business to sports and everything in between. Some commentators believe that there are wars that could have been avoided and battles lost that could have been won – had the politicians and military leaders followed the principles contained in this ancient text. This article is intended to offer a flavour of how the text might apply to trading. Indeed, your interpretations of the principles may be very different to those offered here – and that’s fine.

Regardless of your views about this article, there are two overriding principles that emerge from the Art of War that you could benefit from. The first is to look beyond your computer screen or the trading books on the shelves in your study for ideas and insights about how to trade the markets. There are lots of fields of human endeavour that utilize techniques and approaches that could be applied to trading. The second is that if you’re to be successful, then you need to approach your trading with the same degree of care, thought and attention to detail that Sun Tzu advises military leaders adopt when preparing for battle.

Ted Kwek can be contacted by email at Ted Kwek
 
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Lots of common sense in this article. As an ex military person I've long applied these principles succesfully - treat your trade as a combat mission and you'll do ok. Forget the Top Gun & other military crap you see on the media - it's the quality of planning, execution and debriefing that makes the money.
 
Victory comes to him with the biggest weapon

Second sentence "From my experience, a trading methodology or system is only one of the ingredients of success". Yes but you are not a succesful trader otherwise you wouldn't be penning all this stuff and would be trading, therefore this sentence is fantasy based on acquired read 'knowledge' and the rest of the article can be discounted. It's only junk quoted from someone else's writing anyway.
 
sorry - T.A.O.W. is a very overused concept to sell books

sorry guys ..............Poor Sun Tzu would turn in his grave if he saw how widesprwead his ideas are now used by consultants and experts selling their businesses

that reminds me - I must finalise my latest book

"Sun Tzu and the Art of Cooking - 100 Recipes for a busy mom with an army to feed"

NVP
 
Re: Victory comes to him with the biggest weapon

It's only junk quoted from someone else's writing anyway.

That tends to be the case with so much stuff doesn't it? And of course that's how so many urban myths come into being. Although I do believe there is good stuff in the article (and that's only because in my particular case it resonates with the way I work) there is a limit to what all these "self-help" writings can do for you as a trader. I don't believe there is any substitute for getting out there and doing your own research the hard way and finding out what, if anything, works for you to make you a successful trader.
 
agreed 0007.........Sun Tzu's book is a master piece ....but in the right place for the right purposes
 
agreed 0007.........Sun Tzu's book is a master piece ....but in the right place for the right purposes

The Taliban must be using it
as they seem to kicking US ass with very little firepower, as did the vietnamese and the north Koreans
 
The Taliban must be using it
as they seem to kicking US ass with very little firepower, as did the vietnamese and the north Koreans

Dealing with guerilla tactics is one of the world's most difficult military problems. Was it not the British in Malaya in the 1950s that has been one of the few (possibly only) successful example?
 
I reckon maybe trade2win should focus more on getting content regards The Art of Finance and maybe The Art of Financial Mathematics or even The Art of Economics. I've heard that this stuff is used successfully in some circles.
 
Dealing with guerilla tactics is one of the world's most difficult military problems. Was it not the British in Malaya in the 1950s that has been one of the few (possibly only) successful example?

They did it by slaughtering anyone and everyone who looked like a guerrilla; men, women, children, civilians. (The official version was that they were "relocated" but that's much like Jews being relocated by the Germans.) Even then, the Malayan communist movement wasn't extinguished until 1989.

There are actually plenty of examples of guerrilla forces which have been defeated. The key, however, rests more with the quality of the guerrilla movement than their opposing force. If guerrillas don't have the support of the indigenous population, they don't have a guaranteed line of supply and an accessible sanctuary, they will never succeed. If they have these 3 things, they cannot be defeated; no matter what.

There's a very good wikipedia article on guerrilla warfare here Guerrilla warfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Lateral thinking applications

Interesting, but a more condensed summary/conclusion could be more so. Congratulations, TeaPoJap
 
Dealing with guerilla tactics is one of the world's most difficult military problems. Was it not the British in Malaya in the 1950s that has been one of the few (possibly only) successful example?

The Yanks were too arogant to learn from others and have paid the price over and over.
It's all happened before more or less. If the US administrations had 1 learned historian onboard they would not have made all the classic mistakes of empire. Bush didn't even know where Afghanistan was on the map. An historian could have told the chump it's where mighty empires have perished.
 
The Yanks were too arogant to learn from others and have paid the price over and over.
It's all happened before more or less. If the US administrations had 1 learned historian onboard they would not have made all the classic mistakes of empire. Bush didn't even know where Afghanistan was on the map. An historian could have told the chump it's where mighty empires have perished.

yes, it's amazing isn't it! We (UK) first learned about Afghanistan in the 19th century: but never mind -- we will stay there until the end of 2014 because our politicians know it's the right thing to do:rolleyes:
 
yes, it's amazing isn't it! We (UK) first learned about Afghanistan in the 19th century: but never mind -- we will stay there until the end of 2014 because our politicians know it's the right thing to do:rolleyes:

:lol
 
I reckon maybe trade2win should focus more on getting content regards The Art of Finance and maybe The Art of Financial Mathematics or even The Art of Economics. I've heard that this stuff is used successfully in some circles.

Apparently it is too difficult for mathematicians to do ! So we are stuck with the 'O' level maths of Macd etc.
 
somehow , some of the intepertation is correct, other are ok, other are wrong
but the 'applied to trading' statement is sound
the sun tzu quote are also sound
but the two mixed together, some are not quite right
 
Proverbs::: If you do not Run,,you will get there in time!,,,,,,and your greatest enemy lies in the last place you would ever think to look,,,, A mans first and last point of defence is his mind,defeat this and you defeat him......................the key to sucsess Is to understand others( better than they understand themselfs). The only way to do this,is to look in the mirror and study yourself...
We are all 99 percent the same,,,in this simple realisation is immense power,,but it must be Realised first,,,then and only then can u understand others better,faster,more accurately gauge there intentions and actions versus there likely out come(((he realy wants to stop smoking))but only cos of finances,,not health,,,,,,his intentions are good,,reasons good,,,,,but not enuff ect,,,,,,,
Simply put,,,observe your own self in many situations,,and the side affect of this,is that you will understand others and there own actions,feelings,emotions,,,,in ways that make you the pupit master
 
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