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See attached. Good weekend everyone, See attached. Good weekend everyone,
 +
 +5 June 2009:
 +
 +Dave,
 +
 +I kindly went out of my way to make arrangements for you to get out against the contract as fast as possible with the same day chaps. Your desperation for the money is not my concern but as this has nothing more to do with you, I won't question why you really needed the money so quick and the reason you need now cover the fact with these pointless mails.
 +
 +They serve no purpose other than to make you look worse and just why I would shoot myself in the foot by conning people for a few thousand and ruin my career, hedge fund and reputation like this is the bizarest notion.
 +
 +Please remove the group email addresses and stop covering for your mistake.
 +
 +
 +Chris Williams l Yen specialist & wealth management
 +
 +FLOW CAPITAL LTD
 +http://flow-capital.com
 +http://thetradingnomad.blogspot.com
 ++44(0)7896009139
 +twitter: tradingnomad
 +skype: chrisgwilliams1
 +
 +
 +From: David Jordan <davidjordan@cantab.net>
 +To: Philip D'souza <phil.d'souza@vuemail.com>; Derek Bevan <Derek.Bevan@intecbilling.com>; Roland Kitson <rolaki@hotmail.co.uk>; Nicola Aylin <nictrades@gmail.com>; firewalker@scarlet.be; Chris Williams <chrisgwilliams@ymail.com>; Marc Adamson <marc.adamson@gmail.com>; Oliver Booth <oliver.booth@googlemail.com>; Alan Braunton <a.braunton@gmail.com>; Martin Duncanson <martin.duncanson@gmail.com>; Adrian Green <adrian_green@hotmail.com>; Greg Holden <ghholden@hotmail.com>; Robbie Hotchkiss <robbiehedaman@hotmail.com>; Ann McCawley <ann.mccawley@yahoo.co.uk>; Mark Michalski <michalski2009@yahoo.co.uk>; Paul Michalski <paulmichalski@liroy.nl>; David Sturge <david.sturge@btopenworld.com>; Ben Sturge <benandarchie2009@googlemail.com>; Alan Sutton <al007@btinternet.com>; Phil Waterfield <philipwaterfield@gmail.com>; paul_xtrw@yahoo.co.uk
 +Sent: Friday, 5 June, 2009 0:32:30
 +Subject: Re: statements
 +
 +OI OI!
 +
 +DRUNK AND COKED UP ARABIANIGHTS (<== FOR THE MAJORITY WHO DON'T KNOW WHO I AM) SENDING A MESSAGE TO YOU ALL HERE!
 +
 +IT'S ALL A CON IF YOU ASK ME, THAT'S WHY I CASHED IN A FEW WEEKS AGO WITH A REALLY SHIT EXCUSE, LULZ. NOW IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH IT'S GETTING EVEN MORE DODGY!
 +
 +WHO ELSE AGREES WITH ME?
 +
 +---------- Forwarded message ----------
 +From: S S <paul_xtrw@yahoo.co.uk>
 +Date: Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:49 AM
 +Subject: Re: statements
 +To: firewalker@scarlet.be, Chris Williams <chrisgwilliams@ymail.com>
 +Cc: Philip D'souza <phil.d'souza@vuemail.com>, Derek Bevan <Derek.Bevan@intecbilling.com>, Roland Kitson <rolaki@hotmail.co.uk>, Marc Adamson <marc.adamson@gmail.com>, Nicola Aylin <nictrades@gmail.com>, Oliver Booth <oliver.booth@googlemail.com>, Alan Braunton <a.braunton@gmail.com>, Martin Duncanson <martin.duncanson@gmail.com>, Adrian Green <adrian_green@hotmail.com>, Greg Holden <ghholden@hotmail.com>, Robbie Hotchkiss <robbiehedaman@hotmail.com>, Ann McCawley <ann.mccawley@yahoo.co.uk>, Mark Michalski <michalski2009@yahoo.co.uk>, Paul Michalski <paulmichalski@liroy.nl>, David Sturge <david.sturge@btopenworld.com>, Ben Sturge <benandarchie2009@googlemail.com>, Alan Sutton <al007@btinternet.com>, Phil Waterfield <philipwaterfield@gmail.com>
 +
 +
 +you're scaring me now.
 +I am sure Chris evaluated ODL before transferring to them. I know he tested out a few others before picking ODL.
 +Anyway, he is pretty close to getting his 500 pips already, so he could probably clarify the situation.
 +
 +regards
 +Paul
 +From: Firewalker <firewalker@scarlet.be>
 +To: Chris Williams <chrisgwilliams@ymail.com>
 +Cc: Philip D'souza <phil.d'souza@vuemail.com>; Derek Bevan <Derek.Bevan@intecbilling.com>; Roland Kitson <rolaki@hotmail.co.uk>; Marc Adamson <marc.adamson@gmail.com>; Nicola Aylin <nictrades@gmail.com>; Oliver Booth <oliver.booth@googlemail.com>; Alan Braunton <a.braunton@gmail.com>; Martin Duncanson <martin.duncanson@gmail.com>; Adrian Green <adrian_green@hotmail.com>; Greg Holden <ghholden@hotmail.com>; Robbie Hotchkiss <robbiehedaman@hotmail.com>; Ann McCawley <ann.mccawley@yahoo.co.uk>; Mark Michalski <michalski2009@yahoo.co.uk>; Paul Michalski <paulmichalski@liroy.nl>; "Paul 'Trendie' Sheemer" <paul_xtrw@yahoo.co.uk>; David Sturge <david.sturge@btopenworld.com>; Ben Sturge <benandarchie2009@googlemail.com>; Alan Sutton <al007@btinternet.com>; Phil Waterfield <philipwaterfield@gmail.com>
 +Sent: Monday, 1 June, 2009 15:33:57
 +Subject: RE: statements
 +
 +Eh, you are trusting all of your money to a company which doesn’t make statements and if they do, they can’t figure out the correct total and add some trades double?
 +
 +
 +
 +I’m not sure about the rest but somehow, that doesn’t quite feel very comfortable :-/
 +
 +
 +
 +Van: Chris Williams [mailto:chrisgwilliams@ymail.com]
 +Verzonden: maandag 1 juni 2009 15:37
 +Aan: firewalker@scarlet.be
 +CC: Philip D'souza; Derek Bevan; Roland Kitson; Marc Adamson; Nicola Aylin; Oliver Booth; Alan Braunton; Martin Duncanson; Adrian Green; Greg Holden; Robbie Hotchkiss; Ann McCawley; Mark Michalski; Paul Michalski; Paul 'Trendie' Sheemer; David Sturge; Ben Sturge; Alan Sutton; Phil Waterfield
 +Onderwerp: Re: statements
 +
 +
 +
 +Not sure but that sounds about right, can't imagine ODL are giving me money! I had to beg for that statement too! They don't usually do them apparently so must have been knocked up by someone in the back office just for me!
 +
 +
 +
 +
 +
 +
 +
 +
 +
 +From: Firewalker <firewalker@scarlet.be>
 +To: Chris Williams <chrisgwilliams@ymail.com>
 +Cc: Philip D'souza <phil.d'souza@vuemail.com>; Derek Bevan <Derek.Bevan@intecbilling.com>; Roland Kitson <rolaki@hotmail.co.uk>; Marc Adamson <marc.adamson@gmail.com>; Nicola Aylin <nictrades@gmail.com>; Oliver Booth <oliver.booth@googlemail.com>; Alan Braunton <a.braunton@gmail.com>; Martin Duncanson <martin.duncanson@gmail.com>; Adrian Green <adrian_green@hotmail.com>; Greg Holden <ghholden@hotmail.com>; Robbie Hotchkiss <robbiehedaman@hotmail.com>; Ann McCawley <ann.mccawley@yahoo.co.uk>; Mark Michalski <michalski2009@yahoo.co.uk>; Paul Michalski <paulmichalski@liroy.nl>; "Paul 'Trendie' Sheemer" <paul_xtrw@yahoo.co.uk>; David Sturge <david.sturge@btopenworld.com>; Ben Sturge <benandarchie2009@googlemail.com>; Alan Sutton <al007@btinternet.com>; Phil Waterfield <philipwaterfield@gmail.com>
 +Sent: Monday, 1 June, 2009 14:16:42
 +Subject: RE: statements
 +
 +Now if only my account grew that fast :-)
 +
 +Fantastic job!
 +
 +
 +
 +Just one remark, your account seems to grow by itself but eh… if you add all the trade results to the opening balance is doesn’t quite add up with the ending balance! Unless I’m missing something if I add all settlement losses & profits it shows 47720.64 instead of 49580.63…
 +
 +
 +
 +Either ODL is being very generous, or I’m missing something :-)
 +
 +Perhaps this has something to do with the fact that if you check may Statement 1.pdf the last line is the exact same as the 5th from below. Somehow that doesn’t seem right, it has the same voucher & trade reference code?
 +
 +
 +
 +Van: Chris Williams [mailto:chrisgwilliams@ymail.com]
 +Verzonden: maandag 1 juni 2009 10:35
 +Aan: Marc Adamson; Nicola Aylin; Oliver Booth; Alan Braunton; Martin Duncanson; Adrian Green; Greg Holden; Robbie Hotchkiss; Ann McCawley; Mark Michalski; Paul Michalski; Paul 'Trendie' Sheemer; Anthony Strubbe; David Sturge; Ben Sturge; Alan Sutton; Phil Waterfield
 +CC: Philip D'souza; Derek Bevan; Roland Kitson
 +Onderwerp: statements
 +
 +
 +
 +Good morning,
 +
 +Fresh off the press, well, out of my inbox this morning...!
 +
 +Have a good week all...
 +
 +
 +
 +Chris Williams l Yen specialist & wealth management
 +
 +FLOW CAPITAL LTD
 +http://flow-capital.com
 +http://thetradingnomad.blogspot.com
 ++44(0)7896009139
 +twitter: tradingnomad
 +skype: chrisgwilliams1

Revision as of 15:03, 1 November 2009

Post pool lulz here, with chronology:

14 May 2009:

Good morning all,

My apologies as I seem to have lead some into confusion. The eventual decision was, I would update thoroughly and detailed per usual as some want the statements, some the educational charts but instead of the bi-weekly reports as before, I will be sending the full reports out on the 1st of each month as this allows me more free personal time.

I trust this is acceptable with all and sorry for not clarifying this with everyone as I thought I had. The move to ODL was smooth and problem free and things have been much better for it too. I have included a chart to give you a rough outline of the action of late from my perspective.

The thing I'm sure you all want to know is how much your 'shares' are worth!

Current account value stands at £30,110. Thus each is worth £666(!) at the moment (only roughly. Those who bought in from the start have a slight increase on the later buy-ins). This is all 100% on target (of course!) and a nice steady, solid increase with original targets still in sight as planned.

I am finished for the week now so any mails I will catch up with Sunday night/Monday. Have a good week everyone!

Cheers,

16 May 2009:

Good morning all,

To bring everyone up to a speed, here is a little mini update;

Last update valued at £30,110. Since then, I have sold two new shares at current share value at £699, one slight less and one slightly more (don't ask!) than the other at the time, and taken on one new investor. this will not reduce anyone's values, the projections, eventual returns or risk factors as purchased at current share price... ish! current account value now at £31,513.

Each share is thus worth now = £700 (approx. > taking into account the 2nd week later buy-ins are slightly less).


For future reference, to make life easier, included in monthly (1st each month) will be;

1: The current excel with risk and reward shown, marked to show current status and worst case scenario risk projections, easily and quickly seen and understood.

2: Also, each update will be with a template for Alpari metatrader on the 30min (indicator needed on there for it too make sense) rather than singular charts. These will show the trades taken. For further education and to see what I am progressing too, my ongoing self education can be followed additionally on my blog. (*key below).

3: End of week statements detailing results.


CHART REFERENCE KEY:

DB/DT: Double top/double bottom HrL/LrH: Higher Low / Lower High SB: Swing High/Low break SAR: Stop And Reverse


Hope this helps those curious. Attached are the current template and excel of the current account status.

Kind Regards,



Hi again...

Somewhere along the line, we lost 20k. Not sure how and when but I think with the new additions and my slight risk reductions, it vanished. Therefore, I have tweaked the rest of the years risk slightly, and we are back to the original projections, with the risk still only just a tad over 50%, and the worst case scenario still currently over £100 more than original share value.

See attached. Good weekend everyone,

5 June 2009:

Dave,

I kindly went out of my way to make arrangements for you to get out against the contract as fast as possible with the same day chaps. Your desperation for the money is not my concern but as this has nothing more to do with you, I won't question why you really needed the money so quick and the reason you need now cover the fact with these pointless mails.

They serve no purpose other than to make you look worse and just why I would shoot myself in the foot by conning people for a few thousand and ruin my career, hedge fund and reputation like this is the bizarest notion.

Please remove the group email addresses and stop covering for your mistake.


Chris Williams l Yen specialist & wealth management

FLOW CAPITAL LTD http://flow-capital.com http://thetradingnomad.blogspot.com +44(0)7896009139 twitter: tradingnomad skype: chrisgwilliams1


From: David Jordan <davidjordan@cantab.net> To: Philip D'souza <phil.d'souza@vuemail.com>; Derek Bevan <Derek.Bevan@intecbilling.com>; Roland Kitson <rolaki@hotmail.co.uk>; Nicola Aylin <nictrades@gmail.com>; firewalker@scarlet.be; Chris Williams <chrisgwilliams@ymail.com>; Marc Adamson <marc.adamson@gmail.com>; Oliver Booth <oliver.booth@googlemail.com>; Alan Braunton <a.braunton@gmail.com>; Martin Duncanson <martin.duncanson@gmail.com>; Adrian Green <adrian_green@hotmail.com>; Greg Holden <ghholden@hotmail.com>; Robbie Hotchkiss <robbiehedaman@hotmail.com>; Ann McCawley <ann.mccawley@yahoo.co.uk>; Mark Michalski <michalski2009@yahoo.co.uk>; Paul Michalski <paulmichalski@liroy.nl>; David Sturge <david.sturge@btopenworld.com>; Ben Sturge <benandarchie2009@googlemail.com>; Alan Sutton <al007@btinternet.com>; Phil Waterfield <philipwaterfield@gmail.com>; paul_xtrw@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Friday, 5 June, 2009 0:32:30 Subject: Re: statements

OI OI!

DRUNK AND COKED UP ARABIANIGHTS (<== FOR THE MAJORITY WHO DON'T KNOW WHO I AM) SENDING A MESSAGE TO YOU ALL HERE!

IT'S ALL A CON IF YOU ASK ME, THAT'S WHY I CASHED IN A FEW WEEKS AGO WITH A REALLY SHIT EXCUSE, LULZ. NOW IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH IT'S GETTING EVEN MORE DODGY!

WHO ELSE AGREES WITH ME?


Forwarded message ----------

From: S S <paul_xtrw@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:49 AM Subject: Re: statements To: firewalker@scarlet.be, Chris Williams <chrisgwilliams@ymail.com> Cc: Philip D'souza <phil.d'souza@vuemail.com>, Derek Bevan <Derek.Bevan@intecbilling.com>, Roland Kitson <rolaki@hotmail.co.uk>, Marc Adamson <marc.adamson@gmail.com>, Nicola Aylin <nictrades@gmail.com>, Oliver Booth <oliver.booth@googlemail.com>, Alan Braunton <a.braunton@gmail.com>, Martin Duncanson <martin.duncanson@gmail.com>, Adrian Green <adrian_green@hotmail.com>, Greg Holden <ghholden@hotmail.com>, Robbie Hotchkiss <robbiehedaman@hotmail.com>, Ann McCawley <ann.mccawley@yahoo.co.uk>, Mark Michalski <michalski2009@yahoo.co.uk>, Paul Michalski <paulmichalski@liroy.nl>, David Sturge <david.sturge@btopenworld.com>, Ben Sturge <benandarchie2009@googlemail.com>, Alan Sutton <al007@btinternet.com>, Phil Waterfield <philipwaterfield@gmail.com>


you're scaring me now. I am sure Chris evaluated ODL before transferring to them. I know he tested out a few others before picking ODL. Anyway, he is pretty close to getting his 500 pips already, so he could probably clarify the situation.

regards Paul From: Firewalker <firewalker@scarlet.be> To: Chris Williams <chrisgwilliams@ymail.com> Cc: Philip D'souza <phil.d'souza@vuemail.com>; Derek Bevan <Derek.Bevan@intecbilling.com>; Roland Kitson <rolaki@hotmail.co.uk>; Marc Adamson <marc.adamson@gmail.com>; Nicola Aylin <nictrades@gmail.com>; Oliver Booth <oliver.booth@googlemail.com>; Alan Braunton <a.braunton@gmail.com>; Martin Duncanson <martin.duncanson@gmail.com>; Adrian Green <adrian_green@hotmail.com>; Greg Holden <ghholden@hotmail.com>; Robbie Hotchkiss <robbiehedaman@hotmail.com>; Ann McCawley <ann.mccawley@yahoo.co.uk>; Mark Michalski <michalski2009@yahoo.co.uk>; Paul Michalski <paulmichalski@liroy.nl>; "Paul 'Trendie' Sheemer" <paul_xtrw@yahoo.co.uk>; David Sturge <david.sturge@btopenworld.com>; Ben Sturge <benandarchie2009@googlemail.com>; Alan Sutton <al007@btinternet.com>; Phil Waterfield <philipwaterfield@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, 1 June, 2009 15:33:57 Subject: RE: statements

Eh, you are trusting all of your money to a company which doesn’t make statements and if they do, they can’t figure out the correct total and add some trades double?


I’m not sure about the rest but somehow, that doesn’t quite feel very comfortable :-/


Van: Chris Williams [1] Verzonden: maandag 1 juni 2009 15:37 Aan: firewalker@scarlet.be CC: Philip D'souza; Derek Bevan; Roland Kitson; Marc Adamson; Nicola Aylin; Oliver Booth; Alan Braunton; Martin Duncanson; Adrian Green; Greg Holden; Robbie Hotchkiss; Ann McCawley; Mark Michalski; Paul Michalski; Paul 'Trendie' Sheemer; David Sturge; Ben Sturge; Alan Sutton; Phil Waterfield Onderwerp: Re: statements


Not sure but that sounds about right, can't imagine ODL are giving me money! I had to beg for that statement too! They don't usually do them apparently so must have been knocked up by someone in the back office just for me!





From: Firewalker <firewalker@scarlet.be> To: Chris Williams <chrisgwilliams@ymail.com> Cc: Philip D'souza <phil.d'souza@vuemail.com>; Derek Bevan <Derek.Bevan@intecbilling.com>; Roland Kitson <rolaki@hotmail.co.uk>; Marc Adamson <marc.adamson@gmail.com>; Nicola Aylin <nictrades@gmail.com>; Oliver Booth <oliver.booth@googlemail.com>; Alan Braunton <a.braunton@gmail.com>; Martin Duncanson <martin.duncanson@gmail.com>; Adrian Green <adrian_green@hotmail.com>; Greg Holden <ghholden@hotmail.com>; Robbie Hotchkiss <robbiehedaman@hotmail.com>; Ann McCawley <ann.mccawley@yahoo.co.uk>; Mark Michalski <michalski2009@yahoo.co.uk>; Paul Michalski <paulmichalski@liroy.nl>; "Paul 'Trendie' Sheemer" <paul_xtrw@yahoo.co.uk>; David Sturge <david.sturge@btopenworld.com>; Ben Sturge <benandarchie2009@googlemail.com>; Alan Sutton <al007@btinternet.com>; Phil Waterfield <philipwaterfield@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, 1 June, 2009 14:16:42 Subject: RE: statements

Now if only my account grew that fast :-)

Fantastic job!


Just one remark, your account seems to grow by itself but eh… if you add all the trade results to the opening balance is doesn’t quite add up with the ending balance! Unless I’m missing something if I add all settlement losses & profits it shows 47720.64 instead of 49580.63…


Either ODL is being very generous, or I’m missing something :-)

Perhaps this has something to do with the fact that if you check may Statement 1.pdf the last line is the exact same as the 5th from below. Somehow that doesn’t seem right, it has the same voucher & trade reference code?


Van: Chris Williams [2] Verzonden: maandag 1 juni 2009 10:35 Aan: Marc Adamson; Nicola Aylin; Oliver Booth; Alan Braunton; Martin Duncanson; Adrian Green; Greg Holden; Robbie Hotchkiss; Ann McCawley; Mark Michalski; Paul Michalski; Paul 'Trendie' Sheemer; Anthony Strubbe; David Sturge; Ben Sturge; Alan Sutton; Phil Waterfield CC: Philip D'souza; Derek Bevan; Roland Kitson Onderwerp: statements


Good morning,

Fresh off the press, well, out of my inbox this morning...!

Have a good week all...


Chris Williams l Yen specialist & wealth management

FLOW CAPITAL LTD http://flow-capital.com http://thetradingnomad.blogspot.com +44(0)7896009139 twitter: tradingnomad skype: chrisgwilliams1


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