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Stop Loss - Q&A

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by Alan Farley -  Feb 27, 2006
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Q - How can we trade profitably with stop-gunning games going on all the time?

A - Stop-running or stop-gunning (both terms are used) occurs when a price is pushed through support or resistance in order to trigger the stops that are hiding there. After the stop supply is exhausted, the market bounces back in the other direction, usually winding up where it was before the exercise began.

You only have two choices if you're positioned before a stop-gunning exercise. First, keep the stop-loss outside commonly targeted price levels. This is tough to do because it adds a lot of risk to the trade. Second, keep the stop loss in very close and take another position after the stop-gunning is over.

Look to step into stop-gunning games from the sidelines rather than being a sitting duck with a position bought or sold at a dangerous level. You can often get dramatic fills with good timing during these games.

Q - Why do I always place my stop loss at an exact high or low?

A - You're describing a condition known as trader's disease. It's caused by the market tendency to gravitate toward the price that causes the most pain. Options traders are especially vulnerable to this affliction. It's not really sinister, it's just the nature of the market.

Start by realizing that volatile stocks can't be traded with tight and scientific stops, because all their support-resistance levels are channeled. This pushes a stock back and forth through common stop levels but keeps the ongoing trend intact. If you get up close to a price chart, you'll notice there's large bar-to-bar overlap most of the time. This makes it hard to get your move without getting shaken out.

Q - How can I keep my stop loss from getting hit all the time on Nasdaq tech stocks?

A - Keep your size down when trading volatile stocks. Before you trade, ask yourself how far that stock can move in its natural wiggle. This quick analysis takes a long time to master and is complicated by the tendency of market volatility to change from day to day. You can also avoid getting your stops hit by picking lower-beta stocks to trade. This means avoiding most four-letter stocks.

Q - When should I use a stop-limit order?

A - I never use a stop limit on anything. It's too easy for the stock to go right through your price, not get filled, and trigger a deeper loss. When you want out, you want out. When you need to get out, you need to get out.

A regular stop-loss order becomes a market order when price trades through it. This gives you more control than a stop-limit order, as long as you choose your stock wisely. Keep in mind the more volatile the stock, the wider the potential loss will be on this type of order. When possible, pick lower-volatility stocks that will hit your stop and trigger at that price, without slippage.

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I see RudeBoy was banned again. To whatever moderator is responsible, thank you.
dbphoenix   18-03-2006 06:18:40
What I find fascinating about these gurus is how they become gurus. This fella says: "You only have two choices if you're positioned before a stop-gunning exercise. First, keep the stop-loss outside commonly targeted price levels. This is tough to do because it adds a lot of risk to the trade". No it doesn't. Has he never thought of adjusting your leverage (bet size)? Bless!
FXSCALPER2   17-03-2006 13:26:20
I like this article, it's a good one. What kind of trader mostly frequents this site? A) The professional, trading for a corp? B) The home trader, doing it for themselves? C) The worker, trading on the side for themselves? I would say it was C. I would also say that catargory C have less time to manage trades. What is Mr C. thinking when he places his vital stop? Has Mr C. chosen the correct time frame to trade?
RUDEBOY   17-03-2006 13:03:21
Well done, Farley. It is good to see an article with a well-articulated agreement with my personal philosophies on the highly crucial issue of the analysis of the stop loss phenomenon. This article will be good for newbies, to help stop them from losing big. This article, however, does not add anything substantial for those successful traders amongst us. Because the article contains some excellent commonsense to help those of you who are less successful as traders, it was evidently...
TraderPattern   12-03-2006 04:52:25
Quote: Originally Posted by Grey1 Nothing new in this article . I was hoping he would discuss intelligent ways of entering a trade to reduce the need for wide stop loss but he did not . I havent read his topic, just caught this, I dont think he/anyone should release detailed information on this subject. en masse. Why would anyone want to do this? or facilitate this handout, isn't that...
fxmarkets   02-03-2006 07:23:44

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