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Old Apr 16, 2007, 1:03pm   #61
 
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Hello Pat, I looked at the APS product a couple of months ago. I tried to purchase a license two weeks ago but I was turned down -- believe it or not!

I then tried to get an explanation about the rejection but no details were offered.

Do you or anyone else know if there is a third party re-seller of this product? I googled but I could not find one.

Thanks in advance, John
Hello John, did the payment system reject you or the company? It is often the case that credit card processing systems reject a buyer because the address info does not match the address on record, etc. Did you talk to the company about it?

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Hello John, did the payment system reject you or the company? It is often the case that credit card processing systems reject a buyer because the address info does not match the address on record, etc. Did you talk to the company about it?

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Hello Alex. Thanks for your comments and suggestions. No, it wasn't credit card related problem. My payment went through but it was later refunded by the company. Well, I'm looking for alternative supplier.

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Hello Alex. Thanks for your comments and suggestions. No, it wasn't credit card related problem. My payment went through but it was later refunded by the company. Well, I'm looking for alternative supplier.

John
I see you got the program and making some money too! Good move John.

Make sure you read and understand the article by Michael Harris on trading multiple pattern formations. Fidelity found it important enough to publish it on their website. This is the way to make big money with APS. You will find it here:

http://personal.fidelity.com/myfidel...ugust2003.html

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How is your trading with APS going Alex?

I'm working on a few APS add-ons. I've written a VB program to take the scan output, filter it according to a number of criteria. This is useful if one plans to use the scan output to automate trading. You can have up to 10 different criteria in the filter like a ratio of price to 200 MA, RSI value, SMA crossover condition T or F, etc.

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I see you got the program and making some money too! Good move John.

Make sure you read and understand the article by Michael Harris on trading multiple pattern formations. Fidelity found it important enough to publish it on their website. This is the way to make big money with APS. You will find it here:

http://personal.fidelity.com/myfidel...ugust2003.html

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Old Jun 3, 2007, 10:45am   #65
 
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How is your trading with APS going Alex?

I'm working on a few APS add-ons. I've written a VB program to take the scan output, filter it according to a number of criteria. This is useful if one plans to use the scan output to automate trading. You can have up to 10 different criteria in the filter like a ratio of price to 200 MA, RSI value, SMA crossover condition T or F, etc.

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Ron, sorry it took so long to reply. In case you develop any APS add-on as you say I would be interested to purchase it from you if I determine it is useful to my trading methods.

I do some filtering using an excel worksheet I get from the scan output. It is also interesting that in the latest version (I think it is 4.93) you can add scan results to system tracking directly. I plan to upgrade to that feature soon since APS signals have become an integrated part of my trading.

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Has anyone tried using the system for intraday ? And if so with what results ?
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Has anyone tried using the system for intraday ? And if so with what results ?
Hi Pat, I started testing intraday 15 minute EUR/USD and GBP/USD data and I am getting some good results. The main problem is execution time. I have over 30,00 bars in my data files and it takes about 3 days on a dual core 2.40 GHz CPU. I need to get one of those faster quad core machines.

If you are to run APS on intraday data it seems to me a dedicated machine is required.

By the way, I have gotten good results for ES intraday 5 minute bars but I am not trading that at the moment.

Another problem is getting the data files without errors and such. But it certainly worths trying.

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The main problem is execution time. I have over 30,00 bars in my data files and it takes about 3 days on a dual core 2.40 GHz CPU. I need to get one of those faster quad core machines. Alex
Alex, best APS results are for daily bars. I made good profits during the recent Dow rally by just scanning a list of 50 stocks for profit target and stop loss equal to 5%. It only takes less than 10 minutes a day to run the scan in extended mode.

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Alex, best APS results are for daily bars. I made good profits during the recent Dow rally by just scanning a list of 50 stocks for profit target and stop loss equal to 5%. It only takes less than 10 minutes a day to run the scan in extended mode.

Good luck to you.

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I agree and I like your approach. I do something similar one with S&P stocks.

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Has anyone tried using the system for intraday ? And if so with what results ?
Hi Pat, I know use APS with 15 minute forex bars and I have some excellent back tests. I will be using the software for real time trading soon. I have figured out a way to use the scan function real-time on 3, 5, 7 and 12 minute bars.
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Hi Pat, I know use APS with 15 minute forex bars and I have some excellent back tests. I will be using the software for real time trading soon. I have figured out a way to use the scan function real-time on 3, 5, 7 and 12 minute bars.
Interesting to know how you get on
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Hi Pat, I know use APS with 15 minute forex bars and I have some excellent back tests. I will be using the software for real time trading soon. I have figured out a way to use the scan function real-time on 3, 5, 7 and 12 minute bars.
Hi, you can automate it using MQL (metatrader) for forex. Custom timeframes are also possible...

I don't think having a large list of patterns would be a problem with MQL...

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Hi, you can automate it using MQL (metatrader) for forex. Custom timeframes are also possible...

I don't think having a large list of patterns would be a problem with MQL...
Hello ForexDude, MQL and Metatrader look interesting although the language appears complicated for someone without a computer science degree. Regardless, doesn't that tie you to a specific FX broker?

I am looking at NInjaTrader at the moment. It looks like it is much more easier to develop strategies in this program. It is also easier to use the data from NInja with APS. I was told next upgrade will be able to read the NInja export format directly and no conversions will be required. But it is easy at this point to use the data just by making a global replacement of characters in WordPad:

APS Automatic Pattern Search - NinjaTraders

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Hello ForexDude, MQL and Metatrader look interesting although the language appears complicated for someone without a computer science degree. Regardless, doesn't that tie you to a specific FX broker?

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I could help with MQL...

The majority of FX brokers use MetaTrader so it's fair to say that you have a wide selection...
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How do you forward test and why use a delay ?
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