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Old May 29, 2009, 10:41am   #1
 
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interesting market relationships

Hi,
hope it is OK fro me to start a thread here. My idea is to post some charts showing interesting or potentially interesting relationships around market turns.

Please let me know if this type of thing is of interest here?

I rather like this one from last year so to start off.

May 19th high at 1440

minutes in a day = 60*24 = 1440
four revolutions of a circle = 360* 4 = 1440
144*10 =1440

September 10th lows 144 calendar days after the 1440 high

These dates are popular marlet turn dates regardless but interesting to get a square in time (144CD) and price (1440)b around them
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Old May 29, 2009, 3:23pm   #2
 
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A couple of months ago I made a forecast in the SPX timing thread for May 11th or 12th.
I used one of the simplest, but best timing methods to do so. The same as the one you just used in your post.
The low on March 6th was at 667 rounded to the nearest whole number.
Divide that number by ten to get 67 rounded to the nearest whole number.
67 days after March 6th is May 12th.
Off by only one day to stop the 2 month move up.

I would call that an "Interesting Market Relationship".
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Old May 29, 2009, 4:35pm   #3
 
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Paddington started this thread thanks hwsteele. Never thought of that. Being pseudo new here I wasn't aware that there was a spx timing thread so i've found that now.

In the meantime more prosaically carrying on the 144 day relationship in fib turns look how it worked out at the 233 CD level at the jan high. I get next tuesday at 377 days continuing this same relationship, although it is far from clear to me at the moment quite what the mkt is up to.

Alsongside that I attach a chart showing weekly fibonacci links into next week, both an expanding 8/13/21 triangle and 34 and 55 weekly links so potentially interesting time although not if its still in this consolidation

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Old May 29, 2009, 4:46pm   #4
 
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You may have just pointed out when the market will get moving again.
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Old May 29, 2009, 5:30pm   #5
 
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Do you guys have those little Sunday candles/bars on your charts?
I even have them on my cash indices charts from prorealtime.
Obviously you don't count them?

I love this stuff, welcome to T2W Paddington.
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Old May 29, 2009, 6:03pm   #6
 
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Do you guys have those little Sunday candles/bars on your charts?
I even have them on my cash indices charts from prorealtime.
Obviously you don't count them?

I love this stuff, welcome to T2W Paddington.
Nicola
When I do my forecasting I almost always use calendar days instead of trading days.
When I use trading days I only count days the market traded.
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Paddington started this thread thankyou for the welcome Nicola. Love this type of stuff too which is why I was tempted to join this room - mystical ju ju sounds good to me

Regarding counting days my approach is

1. I prefer weekly relationships to be there too because they're stronger. My rule of thumb is that MC2 and MC3 points tend to have weekly relationships and MC1 tend to be based around days. (M1-1 = ITD in delta, MC2 = MTD)

2. I normally go traded days and to me sunday doesn't count there.

3. calendar day counts include all days such as is the example above inc sat & sun.

OK I'm looking for a turn here with a high today or tomorrow of some form. I understand that the 943 is major major on a cycle perspective for determining the delta/ matrix point counts (I'll post my matrix S&P chart later sometime today) and would expect firts pass for that to be a rejection regardless of whether it then goes over, so in a very strong mkt would still expect a 5 point pullback, but think it more likely to go fib 13 to 930 support at first pass. Above it could get into some big stop runs and I assume many already triggered this am with this new globex high

If it doiesn't turn in this timeframe given the huge geometric opportunity to do so swing wise woudl have yp think it could go on for a bit

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thankyou for the welcome Nicola. Love this type of stuff too which is why I was tempted to join this room - mystical ju ju sounds good to me

Regarding counting days my approach is

1. I prefer weekly relationships to be there too because they're stronger. My rule of thumb is that MC2 and MC3 points tend to have weekly relationships and MC1 tend to be based around days. (M1-1 = ITD in delta, MC2 = MTD)

2. I normally go traded days and to me sunday doesn't count there.

3. calendar day counts include all days such as is the example above inc sat & sun.

OK I'm looking for a turn here with a high today or tomorrow of some form. I understand that the 943 is major major on a cycle perspective for determining the delta/ matrix point counts (I'll post my matrix S&P chart later sometime today) and would expect firts pass for that to be a rejection regardless of whether it then goes over, so in a very strong mkt would still expect a 5 point pullback, but think it more likely to go fib 13 to 930 support at first pass. Above it could get into some big stop runs and I assume many already triggered this am with this new globex high

If it doiesn't turn in this timeframe given the huge geometric opportunity to do so swing wise woudl have yp think it could go on for a bit

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That works for me ...
I think Jason has Friday June 5th as a pivot day too (and of course its NFP)

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