## The Square of Nine

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 May 27, 2009, 5:30pm #1 Joined May 2004 The Square of Nine This thread is the discussion of the number chart that has come to be know as "The Square of Nine" over the years. The reason it has come to be know as the square of nine is because when the number one is put in the center square, and then the number two starts the next row of squares the last number on the second row is the number nine. The number ten starts the third row. As far as I know Gann never called this particular number wheel the square of nine. He did call the true square of nine, the square of nine though. That would be 9X9. Or nine rows of nine numbers for a total of 81 numbers. There is more than one number wheel that Gann used in his trading. He used them all in the same way for the most part. It's just that the different charts work for different markets. The number of sides on the chart plays a part in how the numbers fall when compared to a 360 degree circle around the outside of the chart. He used three, four, five, six, and eight sided charts from what I can tell. He also used a "true" circle chart that only had one side so to speak. The solid line of the circle. So to be truthful, all the hype around the "square of nine" number wheel should be spread around to all of the number wheels. That will come later. For now we will look at only the four sided number wheel. From this point on I will refer to that chart as Sq9. Attached Thumbnails   __________________ Always wanting to learn more!
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May 27, 2009, 7:08pm   #4

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 Originally Posted by hwsteele The first thing that should be know about the Sq9 is the fact that it is a square root calculator. The most popular way of using the Sq9 is to find the number that what ever market your looking at's price matches on the chart and then moving around the chart by 90 degree increments to get support and resistance levels. When you do this you are really just using the square root of the price and then adding or subtracting .5 to or from it then squaring the new number, and using that as your level. Let me explain. Look at the chart uploaded. Let's look for any number on the chart. We will use the number 75 cause that's the year I was born, but you can do this with any number on the chart. Get a calculator and find the square root of 75. It is: 8.66 Now add the number "2" to 8.66. We now have the number 10.66. Square that number. (Multiply it by it's self.) That number is 113.64, or rounded to the nearest whole number is 114. Now look at the Sq9 again and you will see that the number right next to 75 on the next row out is 114. Now let's take the number 8.66 and add just "1" to it to get 9.66, or 93 rounded to the nearest whole number. If you look 180 degrees around the chart from 75 you will see that it's the number 93. So to go 90 degrees around the chart you are taking the square root of what ever number it is and adding or subtracting .5 to that square root. Take any number on the wheel and find the square root then add 2 and square that number, and you will get the number right next to the first number but one row out. Take away 2 from the square root and square that number you will get the number right next to the first but on the next row in. That means when looking at a price chart all you have to do is take the square root of a pivot in price and add or subtract .25, or .5, or 1 to or from the number, and square the new number to get support or resistance levels. The same ones you would get from the Sq9 chart by moving around the chart 45, or 90, or 180 degrees.
Sounds interesting, have to get my head around it. Have to do some background reading so that I can understand the concept well enough to be confident to use it in tradring. Thanks for pointing to this one, very interesting.

 May 28, 2009, 12:12am #5 Joined May 2004 For the most part when I work with the Sq9 I use a smaller chart that only goes up to the number 361. I will explain why I do this in a later post. Any time the number I have to work with is bigger than what the chart has I move the decimal place so the number fits. For instance if I'm working with the SPX instead of the number 900 I would use the number 90. If I were working with a stock that was trading at say, \$2.11 I would call it 211 on the wheel. The above should be easy enough to understand. One of the reasons I do this is that I'm not looking for an exact number but more of a range. If I use 90 on the smaller chart I am actually working with a ten point range. From 895 to 905. There is also another way to make prices fit. An example would be if the market is trading at 900 then you use 801 as the center square and then the number 100 on the chart would actually be the number 900. Seems like this second one wouldn't work but believe me it does. Now keep in mind the fact that the Sq9 is a great tool, but it's not the holy grail. Look at the first chart attached to this post. It's the SPX. I took 667 as the low and found the square root. Each line up on the chart is the square root of 667 with .5 added to the number. As in the second line is 1 added to the square root and the third line is 1.5 added to the square root. Not perfect but a nice frame work for looking at the market. The second chart is from moving the decimal point so the low of 667 turns into the number 67 an the chart. Each new line on the SPX price/Time chart is 45 degrees up on the Sq9 chart from the number 67. Again, not perfect but a nice frame work. The third chart is again the SPX with the 667 low. This time we take the number 6 off the front to leave the number 67. We start at that point on the Sq9. Each line up on the third price/Time chart of the SPX is one full circle around the wheel. Nice frame work from the method that you would think shouldn't work. The number 67 is really 667. The next number out on the Sq9 is 104 which is really 804. On and on like this 'til we get to our highest number of 332 or 932 on the SPX chart. Off by less than two points not that bad. More tomorrow. Attached Thumbnails       __________________ Always wanting to learn more!
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