learning to read price action with p/f charts

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Old Feb 17, 2010, 9:22am   #17
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Good stuff, how long you been using P&F? I have been studying this method for a while, not very good at it yet though, but I really love this method. I often see this pattern, not sure if anyone else has, or if its been written about before, it happens on both upside and downside, will jump up/down, consolidate in a clear range then quickly go back down/up then continue to bounce in the original direction, nearly everytime I have seen it, it does it.

Do you ever see such a thing?
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Old Feb 21, 2010, 3:08am   #18
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dentist007 started this thread just an illustration of p/f stuff to look for
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Old Feb 21, 2010, 6:53am   #19
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fantastic thread, just discovered it.

I will put my learning cap on ......

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Old Feb 21, 2010, 7:16am   #20
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always been meaning to look at p&f, but never really got round to it.

out of interest, is p&f the same as the charts richard wyckoff developed?
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Old Feb 22, 2010, 6:41am   #21
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Good stuff, how long you been using P&F? I have been studying this method for a while, not very good at it yet though, but I really love this method. I often see this pattern, not sure if anyone else has, or if its been written about before, it happens on both upside and downside, will jump up/down, consolidate in a clear range then quickly go back down/up then continue to bounce in the original direction, nearly everytime I have seen it, it does it.

Do you ever see such a thing?
I attended two all day courses in London in 1992 on P&F and advanced P&F and have been using it ever since. In the format you are using (1point box X 3 reversal) it gives a good over-view of the e mini S&P.

I see that you use MarketDelta. What data do you feed it with?. The reason I ask is that at the point of the break out and retrace I have a different display at 1060. I use CQG and in the 1 point X 3 it will only create a zero on a full point and not until a full point has been printed. The market went to 1060, bounced to 1065 and then back to 1060. That gave me an unambiguous double zero print at 1060 with a print in between of X's reaching 1065. I have verified that the sequence was accurate on candles and ticks.

The e-mini does that type of pattern when it has been stuck in a range and gets an excuse for a break-out. I think that the cause was the rumour that the EU was preparing a relief package for Greece and the subsequent decline was when the rumour was denied by a German official.

What is important to an analyst is not the reason but what intent was displayed. The market achieved an upward break-out but with no follow through. The subsequent decline did not challenge or take out a major low to the left of the action. With three major congestion area lows untouched to the left, the way was clear to launch an upward push to the upside and 50+ points has been the progress so far.

P&F is an excellent way of filtering data to show what needs to be seen and if correctly configured can keep a trader on the right side of trends. One factor IMO reigns supreme in all forms of TA and that is that anything must be with reference to what it has done with reference to support and resistance to the left of the action. That 1060 is an example as it was a fall from a break-out but failed to challenge three lower lows.
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Old Feb 22, 2010, 10:58am   #22
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always been meaning to look at p&f, but never really got round to it.

out of interest, is p&f the same as the charts richard wyckoff developed?
wyckoff.is one box reversal.the one step back method of construction.very useful for seeing s/r.also,best to use his method of charting when you calculate horizontal counts for continuation patterns
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Old Feb 22, 2010, 1:50pm   #23
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dentist007 started this thread to any readers..lets look at the basic signals
bullish and bearish signals.pattern
The Chart Formations
The Bullish and Bearish Signals

Technical analysts attach particular weight to the fact that a market makes a higher low than a low made on a previous occasion. The inescapable conclusion is that the enthusiasm of the buyers has increased and/or the enthusiasm of the sellers has waned since that previous occasion. It is positive price action.
In its initial formation the bullish signal is nothing more than a double top formation with a higher low.



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dentist007 started this thread and now the bearish signal/formation





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