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Old Jan 2, 2017, 11:09am   #9
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Do you think that you can do 9 net winning trades over a period of time..

9 Net winning trades examples

9 wins 0 losses
18 wins and 9 losses
30 wins and 21 losses
50 wins and 41 losses
150 wins and 141 losses

If so have a look at this short Presentation (only the slides sadly) i was shown it a while back it sure makes you think what is achievable in a short space of time.



https://drive.google.com/open?id=0By...W1ZSnRTdVgwdG8
9 consecutive winnings not 9 net winnings . There is a big difference .
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Old Jan 2, 2017, 5:53pm   #10
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Maths not your strongest point Tar?

Not 9 consecutive winnings that would be totally unrealistic

you risk 50% of the increasing or decreasing balance, look at the attached ppt

each loss takes you back one step, each win takes you forward one step

Its one step forwards or backwards until you reach 9 winners.

admittedly if you loose on the first trade or have more consecutive winners than losers you have to start again

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Old Jan 2, 2017, 8:50pm   #11
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Maths not your strongest point Tar?

Not 9 consecutive winnings that would be totally unrealistic

you risk 50% of the increasing or decreasing balance, look at the attached ppt

each loss takes you back one step, each win takes you forward one step

Its one step forwards or backwards until you reach 9 winners.

admittedly if you loose on the first trade or have more consecutive winners than losers you have to start again
Ok but still your calculation is wrong , why stop at 9 net winnings just add another 9 net winnings and make millions from just 10 quids . Your calculation is way off .
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Old Jan 2, 2017, 9:22pm   #12
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Ok but still your calculation is wrong , why stop at 9 net winnings just add another 9 net winnings and make millions from just 10 quids . Your calculation is way off .
The calculation is not off it is spot on...

if you think i have made a mathematical error then show me where.

And to answer your question yes you can keep going,.. margin requirements get heavy though and banking some of your profit needs to be done.

Show me one reason, just one !!!, with figures, that this wont work

The only reason it wont work is an inability to make 9 net winning trades
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Old Jan 2, 2017, 9:38pm   #13
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The calculation is not off it is spot on...

if you think i have made a mathematical error then show me where.

And to answer your question yes you can keep going,.. margin requirements get heavy though and banking some of your profit needs to be done.

Show me one reason, just one !!!, with figures, that this wont work

The only reason it wont work is an inability to make 9 net winning trades
in case you didnt read the ppt

Trades with 2:1 RR

so risk 10 points for a target of 20 points etc
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 12:01am   #14
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The problem with the example is margin requirements. To trade with a little starting capital, 20 pounds for example, will require leverage. So you would need more than 500:1 to avoid a single tick triggering a margin call on the first trade. Since the account is doubling every win the trade size needs to be considered as does additional margin requirements. The difficulty in this strategy is that you cannot afford much wiggle room when price goes against you. You could reduce trade size after a couple of wins but then you need more pips.
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 3:49am   #15
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The problem with the example is margin requirements. To trade with a little starting capital, 20 pounds for example, will require leverage. So you would need more than 500:1 to avoid a single tick triggering a margin call on the first trade. Since the account is doubling every win the trade size needs to be considered as does additional margin requirements. The difficulty in this strategy is that you cannot afford much wiggle room when price goes against you. You could reduce trade size after a couple of wins but then you need more pips.
So the calculations are indeed correct?

Re Margin, of course you need an account balance of more than £20....

the risk to your account of a loss however is not more than £20..

wiggle room..... its 2:1 Risk Reward.....

so 5 point stop = 10 point target

10 point stop needs 20 point target

100 point stop = 200 point target

all depends on what you are trading


2:1 or better is the Risk Reward that most look to achieve isn't it, is that unreasonable?

anyone else see a flaw in the strategy.....
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 4:19am   #16
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The calculation is a joke mate , you are assuming consecutive winnings ...
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