Baby P - Your thoughts :(

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This is really really sad. I have a 7 month old baby girl and i think having kids of your own just makes the horror of it seem all the more worse. Just terrible.

Ya I'm sickened anyway by these things, but I guess it just makes it worse my son and Baby P would be the same age now. I havn't yet got the words to describe how angry I am too.
 
It's a case of beaurocracy over common sense, there must be some serious problems at Haringey if staff are afraid to stick their head out of the parapit and get something done rather than completing their task bullet points.
 
Discusting. Full stop. We, as adults can at least defend ourselves. Thats not in any way a justification of abuse against anybody but if those that are in a position to defend these kids don't do as they should then what chance have the poor little creatures.

Shame on all involved. I'm not particularly religious however if there is a heaven and hell then I hope these kids enjoy heaven while the vermin that perpetrated those atrocities rot in hell.
 
Discusting. Full stop. We, as adults can at least defend ourselves. Thats not in any way a justification of abuse against anybody but if those that are in a position to defend these kids don't do as they should then what chance have the poor little creatures.

Shame on all involved. I'm not particularly religious however if there is a heaven and hell then I hope these kids enjoy heaven while the vermin that perpetrated those atrocities rot in hell.

I don't beleive in God but in these circumstances I "pray" for one. If we only have one life and that is it then this is even more devastating and unbearable to me.
 
Something so nauseating and horrible is just beyond words, what goes on in people who do that to other beings, to their own babies...

That just cannot be understood.
 
As ever, this is a complex situation (if simple in principle) and it is unlikely that one single person or organisation is totally to blame.

Apart from the desperate tragedy of it all, I find it sickening to listen to all the authorities and agencies in any way involved, racing to get their version of "it wasn't me Guv" to the fore.

Haringey Council should have been at the forefront in preventing this but appear to have been more concerned with Government targets and paper-based reviews to prove their (in)efficiency. Senior BBC posts quite rightly resign / get sacked over the Jonathon Ross affair but Haringey ............. - and they wonder why the public have so little respect!
 
I don't mean to be morbid with these posts, I don't want anyone to forget this little angel.
 

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Too many of these social workers are too goody goody and want to see he best in everyone, but then the problem is there are some which also see bad when there isn't.

There's never a happy medium.

I just hope the eople who did this get to experience a taste of i when they're locked up!
 
It's a case of beaurocracy over common sense, there must be some serious problems at Haringey if staff are afraid to stick their head out of the parapit and get something done rather than completing their task bullet points.

What horror.

Words completely fail me.
 
some say the definition of evil is a complete absence of love. Some people shouldn't be alowed to have children. Forced Sterilization will one day save the world and break the cycle, but not in my lifetime :(
 
I find the term "Baby P" slightly perplexing :confused:.

baby's name begins with a 'p' most likely.

Paul
Peyton
Philip
Pablo
Patrick

etc

Poor baby. Seeing the photo makes it all the more real :(. He is so sweet and innocent.:mad:
 
Human beings not much different to animal species and less than in number of cases.

On a dynamic social organisation level our complete lifestyles and structure perpetuates this kind of social detachment.

Functions of family have been replaced by Bureaucracy
1. Reproduce - Ok to produce outside of marriage
2. Protect - Police and social services for protection
3. Educate - Schools responsibility
4. Health - Hospitals
5. Gratify sexual need - Sex outside of marriage is ok

Humans are social animals. Thus this bureaucracy crap is all very impersonal and comes no where near the bond one feels in a loving family.

We all drink but not everyone becomes an alcholic yob when they do.

So it's all very well doing away with family, honour, tradition as well as religion but there are ultimately consequences for people at the fringes of society.

Most effort is dedicated to individual achievement not to team effort. We live in a competitive capitalist world where family and responsibility staunts private enterprise and achievement.

Even women now find children a pain or burden. Trying to juggle husband, job and children mission impossible. Men are ****heads who want everything, wife, job, kids, mistress and weath.

Society now commends you if you are successful at mating outside of marriage. More scores you have the better regarded you are.

The whole freaking morality of life is tipped upside down.

I would like to know where the parents of the mother and father are? Why are they not taking interest in their children or grandchildren?

If they don't take an interest in their children how does anyone expect mother and father to take interest in their offspring. Especially if it is conceived outside of marriage when both parties habitually **** with every other object of desire on two legs.

Where the hell was the daddy? I'd know if my children were happy within all of 2 minutes just from their body language and vibes. If I see a mark I ask how did you get that.

The ****ing dad is now getting ready to sue Harringey council who don't have any money to manage services anyway.

Even now we are holding bureaucracy responsible for individuals **** attitude.

As for Baby P, may he rest in peace. If he ever did manage to grow up he would have been no doubt the curse of society with asbos tattooed on his forehead.

People then wonder where we all go wrong.


Solution is:

1. Bring back moral values
2. Facilitate the extended family and
3. Social communities and groups
4. Stuff capitalism and bankers
5. Have zero tollerance policy including football players and celebrity dumb ass fockers
6. Raise the tax on alcohol to levels which only stupid focking bankers can afford to smash the brains and kidneys out on. Hopefully, they'll also kill each other and save us a few bob in the process.
7. Lock up bent politicians too - thieving *******s with lapses of judgement
8. Ban stupid computer games which produce FA **** heads. Total wast of time and space. Leisure and entertainment for obese fockers and idiots with nothing else to do.
9. Reduce social security budgets. If you can't look after 2 kids don't ****ing have 5 from 5 different men.
10. If men get women pregnant and don't support their children use judicial powers to deduct contributions at source of income.
11. In Brazil if the police find you with a gun they shoot you. That's what we should do.
12. If you get caught with a knife expect the police to knife you.
13. If you see someone putting their feet on seats, kick em in the face.

Whole social order, justice and existence is up the spout. How can anybody recover a soul destroyed? The mother is a damned slut who'll hopefully burn in hell. Boyfriend and lodger can fuel the fire.

In summary, I blame the genes that contributed to Baby.Ps existence all the way to grand parents on both sides.

Anything else is a little indulgence by political society that ultimately ****s up the family more than what it has been reduced to already.
 
These things only happen in other countries, don't they?

I'm so ashamed.

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This stuff happens ALOT where I grew uo in South Africa, baby girls get raped with broken beer bottles. But where ever this sick twisted sh!t takes place it still makes me feel equally sick. Poor babies in the congo being shot for "fun".

I just hate it so much as i cant get the images out my mind and it makes me think too much, I really can't bear to think that 17 months of torture will be his only existence. I want him to experience love and happiness in whatever form it could take, because if there is no point to life and we die forever then it's just one big very sick joke for those kids.
 
This stuff happens ALOT where I grew uo in South Africa, baby girls get raped with broken beer bottles. But where ever this sick twisted sh!t takes place it still makes me feel equally sick. Poor babies in the congo being shot for "fun".

I just hate it so much as i cant get the images out my mind and it makes me think too much, I really can't bear to think that 17 months of torture will be his only existence. I want him to experience love and happiness in whatever form it could take, because if there is no point to life and we die forever then it's just one big very sick joke for those kids.

I stay away from photographs, as I feel the same as you. My imagination switches from a laughing, happy child to a battered, brutalised body. My imagination gives me enough unhappiness, I don't want pictures.
 
This stuff happens ALOT where I grew uo in South Africa, baby girls get raped with broken beer bottles. But where ever this sick twisted sh!t takes place it still makes me feel equally sick. Poor babies in the congo being shot for "fun".

I just hate it so much as i cant get the images out my mind and it makes me think too much, I really can't bear to think that 17 months of torture will be his only existence. I want him to experience love and happiness in whatever form it could take, because if there is no point to life and we die forever then it's just one big very sick joke for those kids.


There was this horrible program on channel 4 a few days ago about Nigeria's witch children. They were horribly abused and even killed because their parents thought they were witches and were bringing evil into their homes. :(. One father nailed a nail into his baby's head. How sick. I really just don't get it.

Feeling traumatised lately. Too many bad things going on.
 
You don't get it because you are normal.

What has happened to this little kid is the same that happens to many of those that disappear each year. The thing is that most us don't see the results, because those kids have gone from our world, completely, into thin air.

The perpetrators are monsters, but they are more frequent than we imagine.

This is not an isolated instance. In many cases a lot of money changes hands. Think of that little one and also think of what may have happened to Maddie.
 
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