9/11 - The Third Tower

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Old Jul 18, 2008, 2:52am   #337
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No. If there's any shread of evidence it should be thoroughly investigated.
Trouble is . . . guess what . . . there isn't.
You are a deluded fantasist. Get a grip of reality. You remind me of a 5 year old in the school playground saying something like - "well your Nike Air Max might be better than Pauls Dunlop Greenflash, but they're not better than my Dunlop Greenflash."

Just because you say something, doesn't make it reality. Reality is something that YOU cannot construct for yourself, as you feel is convenient for your beliefs, thoughts and state of mind. You cannot say that reality is false just because it makes you feel uncomfortable. Reality is a consequence of truth and fact.

We are NOT trying to prove that the official story of 911 is wrong. We have simply provided links to sources that include a mass of other information, facts, events and guess what - many unanswered questions about 911, that the controlled estblishment media gatekeepers have prevented you from seeing, be it not for the internet.

All you have done is make a lame attempt to prove that some of the facts about 911 that have not been addressed in the mainstream media, are false. He's lying, her mind must have played tricks on her, it looked like a controlled demolition but that certainly doesn't mean it was one etc.

The events, information facts (scientifically verified theories, or actual events) speak for themselves, you cannot simply deny their existence, in order to create your own convenient version of reality......

The reality of 911 is that there is much conflicting evidence and accounts and scientifically verifiable theories of what happened, that contradict the "official conspiracy theory", and the reality is there are many unanswered questions that the powers that be will not attempt to answer.

When someone or something in a position of authority refuses to answer questions, enter a debate, or even investigate, this raises suspiscions...




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Old Jul 18, 2008, 3:07am   #338
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Ok, lets cut to the chase . . . I belive I've asked it before but, hey, it's been a hard day and I can't be bothered to wade through 34-odd pages . .

TO ALL YOU "TRUTH-SEEKERS" OUT THERE

Present us your theory about what hapennd on 9/11.

This to include at least:

- What flew into the towers.

- Why did they fall

- In case of controlled demolition: please show how the buildings where prepped, how it was possible to do that within the time limits, why nobody saw the prepped walls, how the explosives and the wires survived the planes' impacts and why no traces of explosives were found afterwards.

- Please explain why such a destruction would work without the slightest problems even though there has never been any building brought down that was even nearly as large as the towers, everything was done in a rush and therefore had to been done very sloppy, and even though everything went perfect.

- What flew into Pentagon

- Does that match with the eyewitnesses observations? (always a tough one that!)

- What was the purpose of the attack?

- Who is involved into the conspiracy?

- How have the engineering communities across the globe been silenced?

- What do you think happened to WTC7?

This just to start with.

Please explain in detail and with your own words. No links to CT sites accepted. Unsupported speculation will be ignored.

Are you up to the challenge?
We don't need to, it has already been done by experts in the linked sources that we've provided in this thread. What woudl be the point in us wasting our time to simply regurgitate all this, simply for you to turn round and CONSTRUCT YOUR OWN VERSION OF REALITY, LIKE A 5 YEAR OLD WOULD.
I could try and reword their wordings, but would probably make errors, that the debunkers could pounce upon. Better things to do with my time.
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Old Jul 18, 2008, 3:19am   #339
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When someone or something in a position of authority refuses to answer questions, enter a debate, or even investigate, this raises suspiscions...
I put a question to you HERE but you just ducked it and called me stupid.

I have other questions and would love to debate with you but hey, you know..........

Perhaps you should take the advice given in the first two paragraphs of your post 337 above.


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Old Jul 18, 2008, 3:32am   #340
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I put a question to you HERE but you just ducked it and called me stupid.

I have other questions and would love to debate with you but hey, you know..........

Perhaps you should take the advice given in the first two paragraphs of your post 337 above.


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1) I am not in a position of authority.
2) I am not looking to debate the facts. As stated the facts, evidence, unanswered questions etc. are something the governements need to respond to, but so far haven't.
My main motive for participating in this thread is to raise awareness. Kind of like saying - "hey, look guys, i know the govt. and media said this happened, but have you seen this film, or have yopu read that document, as they show a completely different side to things, that the controlled establishment media have completely ignored and will not respond to questions about. I for one think that all this looks very suspiscious!"
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..... have completely ignored and will not respond to questions about. I for one think that all this looks very suspiscious!
yes, I know the feeling !


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Old Jul 18, 2008, 3:45am   #342
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Is it, or is it a question for a few nut cases, fantasists and bored housewives (present company excepted)?

Maybe I live in a cocoon, but I'm yet to come across anyone outside these forum's who is discussing 9/11 in any other context than an Al Qaeda attack.

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In response to my post being "a question for the governments of the world or whoever controls it".:

Hi bud,

Sorry to say but your the one who is starting to sound like a nutcase (no offense). It is not wrong to ask your government questions, in fact, it is THE right thing to do. Without asking you dont get and what we need is answers.

Try talking to more people, you say your social network only believes Al-CIAda was responsible and I assume you mean in full as you have no questions but shune the 'nutcases' that do. In a recent poll over half the American public believe the government to have been involved in some fashion. This would mean you need just one other friend in your social circle as this would surely be a 'nutcase'. If you oppose as strongly as you do then people just wont talk to you about it...simple.

If you have watched/listened/read the 'other side' to the story (and theres always 2 sides) then surely this would have doubts in your mind and also many, if at least just one question that you feel would need answering by the people YOU elected to put into manage YOUR country. Surely nutcases couldn't help you here....or could they?





Jtrader,

It would seem that there are people out there that WANT to accept that the government is telling the whole truth and nothing but, this of course is easier for the mind to accept as to believe we live in a world that is controlled by guys we never see nor hear of and are obsessed with taking over the world to create one world order is just too much to bare. One single currency, one single government, one language, one military, one belief/religion and of course one world power that rules by electing itself....


This is all too much for some to believe. If only people opened there minds more to possible events and shut there eyes and ears from media manipulation then the world WOULD be a better place. Hey, may even make them a better trader, I know it does me.
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In a recent poll over half the American public believe the government to have been involved in some fashion.
In a recent poll over half the American public believed George Bush would make a good president but that didn't mean they were right did it ?


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In response to my post being "a question for the governments of the world or whoever controls it".:

Hi bud,

Sorry to say but your the one who is starting to sound like a nutcase (no offense). It is not wrong to ask your government questions, in fact, it is THE right thing to do. Without asking you dont get and what we need is answers.

Try talking to more people, you say your social network only believes Al-CIAda was responsible and I assume you mean in full as you have no questions but shune the 'nutcases' that do. In a recent poll over half the American public believe the government to have been involved in some fashion. This would mean you need just one other friend in your social circle as this would surely be a 'nutcase'. If you oppose as strongly as you do then people just wont talk to you about it...simple.

If you have watched/listened/read the 'other side' to the story (and theres always 2 sides) then surely this would have doubts in your mind and also many, if at least just one question that you feel would need answering by the people YOU elected to put into manage YOUR country. Surely nutcases couldn't help you here....or could they?





Jtrader,

It would seem that there are people out there that WANT to accept that the government is telling the whole truth and nothing but, this of course is easier for the mind to accept as to believe we live in a world that is controlled by guys we never see nor hear of and are obsessed with taking over the world to create one world order is just too much to bare. One single currency, one single government, one language, one military, one belief/religion and of course one world power that rules by electing itself....


This is all too much for some to believe. If only people opened there minds more to possible events and shut there eyes and ears from media manipulation then the world WOULD be a better place. Hey, may even make them a better trader, I know it does me.
You're right. 100%. It is easier for A person to reject thoughts that they are not comfortable with, through the process of "DENIAL". This is so relevant to peoples reactions to this type of topic. Denial - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As for the blades, he's admitted he's not even looked at any of the videos, articles or documents .
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