Brexit and the Consequences

This is a discussion on Brexit and the Consequences within the The Foyer forums, part of the Off the Grid category; Originally Posted by David Knight So let me get this right. On the one hand we are expected to bow ...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old Oct 18, 2017, 7:40am   #3985
Joined Feb 2002
Quote:
Originally Posted by David Knight View Post
So let me get this right. On the one hand we are expected to bow to the queen, salute for the flag and die for our country . (At one time you could be arrested for not standing for the national anthem at the cinema and you could face a firing squad for 'cowardice'))

But when it suits the globalists you must swap your flag and national anthem for the EU and throw away your sovereignity, or be labelled a racist and a zenophobe... and stupid.

David - You're talking about two different groups, right and left. Its no wonder they support opposing ideas.
tomorton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 18, 2017, 7:33pm   #3986
Joined Aug 2017
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomorton View Post
David - You're talking about two different groups, right and left. Its no wonder they support opposing ideas.
They support the same idea.

The entire political class agree that this country should give up it's borders, it's independance and it's democracy to The EU.

They support the same idea.

They believe that our soldiers should die in illegal wars 'In order to keep our country safe' because we have a 'special relationship' with the US

This country is less safe because of Tony Blair

This coiuntry does not enjoy a 'special relationship' with the US; it's a myth. The clue is the number of times the puppets repeat the lie.

Just try disagreeing wth the US and see what happens.

'France is our oldest ally'- John Kerry ( After our parliament voted NO to an invasion of Syria. You remember? when our forces 'aren't there, they are embedded in US forces'?)

There are no 2 groups in politics. Surely enough people realise by now? That it's utterly futile expecting the political class to solve our problems.

They are exactly the cause of them. Or rather, they are merely the puppets carrying out a global agenda

It should not have been Cameron who stood down. It should have been the entire government. They very cleverly sacrificed their leader in order to avoid what should have been the response to a collective decision.

But then, the future of the Tory party is far more important than the future of the country isn't it?

At the very least, they should have chosen a leader who actually wanted to leave the EU rather than one who just wants to destroy the European court of human rights influence here.

I just hope the traitor political class manage to connive a second referendum. You'll see a far more convincing win for Brexit2.0

Every disaster the remain camp predicted proved wrong. And what we see now is the establishment doing everything it can to protect it's own interests above ours.

Those that did not vote because they believed voting no longer works will jump at the chance to make their voices heard.

The leave camp should then concentrate their efforts on convincing the younger generation that their future is doomed under the neo liberal global socialist agenda the elite desperately want.

Naturally, I have a few strategies I would share with the appropriate parties....






Last edited by David Knight; Oct 18, 2017 at 7:47pm.
David Knight is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 18, 2017, 8:09pm   #3987
 
Atilla's Avatar
Joined Nov 2006
Atilla started this thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by David Knight View Post
So let me get this right. On the one hand we are expected to bow to the queen, salute for the flag and die for our country . (At one time you could be arrested for not standing for the national anthem at the cinema and you could face a firing squad for 'cowardice'))

But when it suits the globalists you must swap your flag and national anthem for the EU and throw away your sovereignity, or be labelled a racist and a zenophobe... and stupid.

You are a bit of a drama queen aren't you. Hope you enjoy the pantomime season.
__________________
Know your L I M I T A T I O N S
Atilla is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanks! The following members like this post: dbphoenix
Old Oct 18, 2017, 8:46pm   #3988
Joined Aug 2017
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atilla View Post
You are a bit of a drama queen aren't you. Hope you enjoy the pantomime season.
You think? I dunno, maybe...

You've reminded me that I really should get around to researching how people reveal their true nature through their choice of words...
David Knight is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 18, 2017, 9:17pm   #3989
 
Atilla's Avatar
Joined Nov 2006
Atilla started this thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by FXX View Post
WTO rules will be the worst scenario? Okay so we pay an extra % on things between the EU and adjustment is going to happen. Where we end up who knows! One thing I can say for sure though is you are at least partially wrong in thinking it will be the worst scenario. Not least because of this:

"UK's trade is measured through both imports and exports of goods and services. In 2016, exports of goods accounted for 56 percent of total exports, mainly mechanical machinery (14 percent), cars (10 percent), electrical machinery (8 percent), medicinal and pharmaceutical products (8 percent), aircraft (5 percent) and other miscellaneous manufactures (5 percent).

Main goods export partners were: the United States (16 percent), Germany (11 percent), France, the Netherlands and Ireland (6 percent each) and China (5 percent). Services accounted for 44 percent of total exports, mainly professional, scientific and technical activities; followed by the information and communication services. This page provides - United Kingdom Exports - actual values, historical data, forecast, chart, statistics, economic calendar and news. United Kingdom Exports - actual data, historical chart and calendar of releases - was last updated on October of 2017."
https://tradingeconomics.com


As you can see we are trading very healthily with other countries.

That's like now as we are still in the EU.

What are your forecasts and expectations when we leave?

Considering fall in the pande one would expect more of an uplift in exports. However, as we don't have much of a manufacturing base imports will be in excess of exports and we will see a sharp deterioration in BoPayments.

Hot capital flows and demise of service industries will further exacerbate those BoP numbers.

Coupled with all that we will be importing inflation. Your analysis leaves much to be desired.

Stick to software development and working from home so you don't have to compete for seats on public transport me ol matey
__________________
Know your L I M I T A T I O N S
Atilla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 18, 2017, 10:35pm   #3990
FXX
Joined Oct 2017
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atilla View Post
That's like now as we are still in the EU.

What are your forecasts and expectations when we leave?

Considering fall in the pande one would expect more of an uplift in exports. However, as we don't have much of a manufacturing base imports will be in excess of exports and we will see a sharp deterioration in BoPayments.

Hot capital flows and demise of service industries will further exacerbate those BoP numbers.

Coupled with all that we will be importing inflation. Your analysis leaves much to be desired.

Stick to software development and working from home so you don't have to compete for seats on public transport me ol matey

Hi Atilla

Expectations for something that has no familiar reference is arbitrary and therefore finger in the air stuff. You seem to be alluding to trade halting once Brexit completes. This is a rather daft point of view and maybe you should step outside foe some fresh air because you are not thinking clearly. Moving onto the BOP which is split into 3 accounts


1)The current account ( trade in goods and services)

2)The capital account-primary income account.(investment income, compensation of employees and other primary income)

3)The financial account-secondary income account.(transfers between countries.official payments to and receipts from EU institutions and other international bodies)

If you look at the aggregate of the BOP it doesn't look great but like so much in life the devil is in the detail. taking the latest data which is from Q2 the picture isn't nearly as grim as you paint it. Comparing Q2 for 2015\16\17

When you look at the data it is clear the major negative blows are from investments in equities and debt markets and central government payments. Imports are always going to be negative because we are a service driven economy. All other data points are actually not bad at all with broad moderate growth.

"demise of service industry"! On what research or factual evidence do you base this or is it more finger in the air stuff? Perhaps some more fresh air is needed?

Brad
FXX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 18, 2017, 10:49pm   #3991
Joined Feb 2002
Quote:
Originally Posted by David Knight View Post
They support the same idea.

The entire political class agree that this country should give up it's borders, it's independance and it's democracy to The EU.

They support the same idea.

They believe that our soldiers should die in illegal wars 'In order to keep our country safe' because we have a 'special relationship' with the US

This country is less safe because of Tony Blair

This coiuntry does not enjoy a 'special relationship' with the US; it's a myth. The clue is the number of times the puppets repeat the lie.

Just try disagreeing wth the US and see what happens.

'France is our oldest ally'- John Kerry ( After our parliament voted NO to an invasion of Syria. You remember? when our forces 'aren't there, they are embedded in US forces'?)

There are no 2 groups in politics. Surely enough people realise by now? That it's utterly futile expecting the political class to solve our problems.

They are exactly the cause of them. Or rather, they are merely the puppets carrying out a global agenda

It should not have been Cameron who stood down. It should have been the entire government. They very cleverly sacrificed their leader in order to avoid what should have been the response to a collective decision.

But then, the future of the Tory party is far more important than the future of the country isn't it?

At the very least, they should have chosen a leader who actually wanted to leave the EU rather than one who just wants to destroy the European court of human rights influence here.

I just hope the traitor political class manage to connive a second referendum. You'll see a far more convincing win for Brexit2.0

Every disaster the remain camp predicted proved wrong. And what we see now is the establishment doing everything it can to protect it's own interests above ours.

Those that did not vote because they believed voting no longer works will jump at the chance to make their voices heard.

The leave camp should then concentrate their efforts on convincing the younger generation that their future is doomed under the neo liberal global socialist agenda the elite desperately want.

Naturally, I have a few strategies I would share with the appropriate parties....






I suppose they do support one idea in one sense - the idea that they should retain power. Its simple, there's no global agenda.
tomorton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 19, 2017, 1:43am   #3992
Joined May 2016
Brexit and the Consequences

Has anyone heard of the theory of Common Purpose? Possibly a conspiracy theory. Does it have any merit? Have our institutions been flooded with common purpose graduates over a number of years, part of the globalist agenda?

Anyone have any insights? Is it related to deep state?

It really does seem that Brexit is highlighting a global conspiracy but the way the Tories and EU are manipulating the situation is to make whatever end game they have in mind look like nobody's fault with no- one to blame.

Is there collusion between Lib/lab/con/EU to fix the situation, strange how the Libdems ( and SNP) are so quiet, just leaving the LibCons to get on with it.

May has meetings with EU followed by Corbin.

Fascinating to watch with popcorn.
Signalcalc is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Brexit - in or out Pat494 The Foyer 2052 Jul 7, 2016 12:25am
For or Against Brexit 2017? hhiusa The Foyer 178 Jun 21, 2015 11:58pm
Sean Quinn's Anglo CFD's and the consequences HairyMoose First Steps 0 Jul 24, 2012 8:35pm
consequences of end to Mark to market accounting in relation to bank stress test samba12 General Trading Chat 18 Apr 7, 2009 12:58pm

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)