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Old Feb 14, 2018, 11:31pm   #4876
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Old Feb 15, 2018, 3:38am   #4877
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What Boris Johnson’s Brexit Speech Tells Us About U.K. Politics

Got a frosty reception. Much hot air and no substance.

Bumbling baffoon.

Turning into sad loser.

All hope and not much on numbers. CV no doubt will think it is the next best thing to sliced bread
Reasonable outline I suppose, but doesn't go far enough.

Anyway, it is abundantly clear now that remoaners need to throw in the towel. The battle is totally lost and it's time to move on. There is no point in wasting energy fighting for stuff that isn't going to happen and i'm trying to be helpful here, but disappearing into your rabbit hole is not at all productive and it might well play havoc with mental health.

So, embrace the future and all the opportunities that will open up.
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Old Feb 15, 2018, 2:20pm   #4878
 
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Atilla started this thread Just under 3,500 registered to work in 2017, a 26 percent drop from 2014.
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February 15, 2018, 5:15 AM GMT

Andrea Pevere had a great job offer: a permanent position as an anesthesiologist in the U.K., where she had previously worked and lived. But she worried about what would happen to her immigration status—she is Italian—once Britain formally leaves the European Union in 2019.

Instead, like an increasing number of European doctors, she decided against the move, accepting a limited-term contract in France.

“If you want to build a future,” said Pevere, 35, “you just think twice about choosing the U.K. for a long-term job.”

The number of doctors coming to the U.K. from the European Union fell 9 percent in 2017 to an eight-year low, according to new figures from the U.K.’s General Medical Council obtained by Bloomberg through a freedom of information request. There were 3,458 new doctors from EU countries who registered to work in 2017, down 26 percent from a peak of 4,644 in 2014, the council’s data show.

Doctors who have considered working in the U.K. say it will only get worse, thanks to Britain’s 2016 decision to leave the EU. Non-Brits haven’t had a clear answer on whether they’ll be able to live and work in an independent U.K., despite attempts at reassurance from Theresa May’s government.



No need for foreign doctors or nurses!

Once migrant labour goes back or stop coming here system will balance it self out and NHS will be tickety boo again.





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Old Feb 15, 2018, 7:16pm   #4879
 
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Ahh well, at least we can feel better about poaching skilled doctors from other countries where there’s greater demand for them..... every cloud...

Controlled migration, not no migration..
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Ahh well, at least we can feel better about poaching skilled doctors from other countries where there’s greater demand for them..... every cloud...

Controlled migration, not no migration..

Control is an illusion. They've already stopped coming. I don't think you've read the article. Nursing and Doctor applications are both down whilst GP Surgeries have unfulfilled vacancies.

Add to that brain drain and Brits who are able to leave the UK who will do.

I hope it works out for you.


On another note the skills required to build the new future with AI, driverless cars and new standards will all be established by Europe and Asia. UK will simply have to learn to tag along rather than setting them at the head of the table.

The gigantic size of future technologies require national & international planning. This is what our pea-sized-brained politicians fail to see. Setting standards and building to those standards, licensing and patenting is where the future will be. Think about it. We can't even produce a car now what chance do we have of competing in the future when we will be falling behind in the technology race.

Did you hear Boris calling for university students to be wolcomeed in the UK? I hope you realise they made up the bulk of migrant labour who chose to stay and work in the UK.

Brexiters need to sort your selves out as to what you want and what you don't? We'll have you but not you. You'll do, you can naff off. You must be the fat controller.

Take back control indeed but first make up your minds as to what you want
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Old Feb 15, 2018, 9:50pm   #4881
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Control is an illusion. They've already stopped coming. I don't think you've read the article. Nursing and Doctor applications are both down whilst GP Surgeries have unfulfilled vacancies.

Add to that brain drain and Brits who are able to leave the UK who will do.

I hope it works out for you.


On another note the skills required to build the new future with AI, driverless cars and new standards will all be established by Europe and Asia. UK will simply have to learn to tag along rather than setting them at the head of the table.

The gigantic size of future technologies require national & international planning. This is what our pea-sized-brained politicians fail to see. Setting standards and building to those standards, licensing and patenting is where the future will be. Think about it. We can't even produce a car now what chance do we have of competing in the future when we will be falling behind in the technology race.

Did you hear Boris calling for university students to be wolcomeed in the UK? I hope you realise they made up the bulk of migrant labour who chose to stay and work in the UK.

Brexiters need to sort your selves out as to what you want and what you don't? We'll have you but not you. You'll do, you can naff off. You must be the fat controller.

Take back control indeed but first make up your minds as to what you want
Listen....we are Great Britain and we will do what we like.
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Old Feb 15, 2018, 10:27pm   #4882
 
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Listen....we are Great Britain and we will do what we like.

You are just a very very small weeeee of Great Britain.
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Old Feb 15, 2018, 10:55pm   #4883
 
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Full of doom and gloom mr.Atilla, if our grandfathers were like that we would be speaking German now...I’ll have a word with the guys at s&p500, see if we can bag you a gold this week to cheer you up eh ?
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Old Feb 16, 2018, 8:30am   #4884
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Already seeing an improvement amongst the young folk I know job hunting in London - pick of the jobs and can ask for the wage they want (within reason) and this is amongst non-degree educated 20 something’s with some life and job experience. Employment market booming, rising wages and providing opportunity, much different to the situation a couple of years ago. How much this is due to Brexit is difficult to say

They will still vote for Corbyn though, brainwashed fools that they are. But then you can’t really blame them for that, there is a total lack of leadership coming from anywhere else, that and the gentle veneer that Labour portray despite their lack of integrity. I’m afraid it will be down to parents to try and persuade them otherwise.

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Full of doom and gloom mr.Atilla, if our grandfathers were like that we would be speaking German now..

.....und das ist ein großes Problem für dich?
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Already seeing an improvement amongst the young folk I know job hunting in London - pick of the jobs and can ask for the wage they want (within reason) and this is amongst non-degree educated 20 something’s with some life and job experience. Employment market booming, rising wages and providing opportunity, much different to the situation a couple of years ago. How much this is due to Brexit is difficult to say
Things across the channel look very similar ....and as far as I know, the Frogs are staying in

Note improving employment numbers in second graphic below:

http://statistiques.pole-emploi.org/stmt/publication
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Things across the channel look very similar ....and as far as I know, the Frogs are staying in



Note improving employment numbers in second graphic below:



http://statistiques.pole-emploi.org/stmt/publication

Well that’s not very British is it! After all anything that has gone wrong for the last two years has been blamed on Brexit.

I look forward to the days of blaming every positive step that happens in Britain on Brexit, it’s the fault of those leavers that we have record employment, growing GDP, blah blah I hear you say

It’s going to be interesting to see what the remoaners will turn their negative attention to once we have actually left, never mind the boom we are experiencing leading up to March 2019, (assuming we do actually leave in more than name only), at the moment it’s all been positive.

My theory is that remoaners are depressed by nature, the EU was the pill that stopped them tipping over the edge, now the prescription has changed, the new chemicals circulating in their systems are causing confusion and delirium to the point of incoherence. The medical research needs to catch up to invent another new pill to keep the negative emotions under control......where will that come from ?
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Old Feb 16, 2018, 1:23pm   #4888
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I've been searching for EU impact assessments post Brexit.

There don't appear to be any ! How very remiss of the EU
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Old Feb 16, 2018, 1:43pm   #4889
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If we leave in name only then at least the shoe will be on the other foot and Brexiteers will be able to take the negative upper hand and blame everything that goes wrong on the fact that we have not left the EU
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.....und das ist ein großes Problem für dich?
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