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Old Nov 6, 2005, 4:46pm   #1
 
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Favourite saying No.13 =

"The trouble is....to get a programmer to understand all this....they are not interested....they just want to finish the job as quickly as possible......and get paid immediately............they have no understanding...NO UNDERSTANDING WHATSOEVER...... NONE.........".
You know Socrates, I feel a little irony here as you don't understand Volume spread yourself, do you? otherwise you would not have had the signals removed from version 4 that you bought the rights from Tom, would you? You had to take out the indicators because you could NOT explain them, could you??


And I will be back at Tom's place for a month, so I guess you will still be on Goring high street looking bored?
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Old Nov 6, 2005, 6:55pm   #2
 
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You know Socrates, I feel a little irony here as you don't understand Volume spread yourself, do you? otherwise you would not have had the signals removed from version 4 that you bought the rights from Tom, would you? You had to take out the indicators because you could NOT explain them, could you??


And I will be back at Tom's place for a month, so I guess you will still be on Goring high street looking bored?
Toms book - I bought it a long time ago. It was riddled with typo's, wrongly labelled charts etc.However, after a great deal of copy editing, I found it to be a very useful and informative read. Hopefuly Tom has corrrected typo's in any new edition.Seems T2W sells the book?

http://books.global-investor.com/boo...462771ba1c3c77
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Old Nov 7, 2005, 6:06pm   #3
 
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You know Socrates, I feel a little irony here as you don't understand Volume spread yourself, do you? otherwise you would not have had the signals removed from version 4 that you bought the rights from Tom, would you? You had to take out the indicators because you could NOT explain them, could you??


And I will be back at Tom's place for a month, so I guess you will still be on Goring high street looking bored?
I am going to be exceptionally considerate to you and give you a chance.

I am going to allow you the benefit of choice.

I am going to leave you to very carefully consider whether you prefer I give you 4 replies in private between us, or, whether you prefer my 4 answers I will give to you to be made in public, that is, right here.

It is your call . The two embarrassed little faces are not mine.

And please don't ring me.

I expect you to reciprocate by replying in writing, right here in public, and not by PM, go on.

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Old Nov 7, 2005, 8:13pm   #4
 
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VSATrader started this thread 4 Replys? four replys to what? The stick-bird?

They say that a true madman shows himself in his writings, people have told me that you are a Walter Mitty character, I know this to be true as Tom and I were sitting outside last the office last November and you came over with your cup of coffee and gave us a song and dance about being a jobber on the LSE in the early seventies. In the end I told you to get lost as I could see that you were talking non sense. Tom told me in all the time he had known you(a few years) that you had never mentioned this before.

You have many quality's Albert, but knowledge of the market is not one of them, else you would not have lost $75k in the S&P pit on 50 contracts. Is this true? can you confirm this?

Four replys? You really have me there.

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I am going to be exceptionally considerate to you and give you a chance.

I am going to allow you the benefit of choice.

I am going to leave you to very carefully consider whether you prefer I give you 4 replies in private between us, or, whether you prefer my 4 answers I will give to you to be made in public, that is, right here.

It is your call . The two embarrassed little faces are not mine.

And please don't ring me.

I expect you to reciprocate by replying in writing, right here in public, and not by PM, go on.
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Old Nov 7, 2005, 8:37pm   #5
 
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I believe he was referring to the four questions you posed in post #1, athough I think you meant them rhetorically.
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Reminds me of the scene in Bridget Jone's Diary where someone shouts 'fight, fight' and everybody can't help themselves, they all run outside to watch.

Looks like the police have turned up already.

I was rather looking forward to seeing Socy get a good 'kicking', tut.

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Old Nov 7, 2005, 9:12pm   #7
 
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You know Socrates, I feel a little irony here as you don't understand Volume spread yourself, do you? otherwise you would not have had the signals removed from version 4 that you bought the rights from Tom, would you? You had to take out the indicators because you could NOT explain them, could you??


And I will be back at Tom's place for a month, so I guess you will still be on Goring high street looking bored?
Here are your four answers+

Answer number one =

I understand volume to a far deeper exent than you can dream of ever hoping to achieve, why and how is not your business.

Answer number two =

I have a bill of sale to the rights to VSA 4 with a further agreement for me to do with it as I please. How and to what extent the program has been modified is none of your business either. The signals that you talk about were stripped out because they were misleading and useless, always late and after the event and with a habit of appearing and disappearing, or appearing in the wrong place altogether. They have never ever been used from the word go.

Answer number three =

the indicators do not merit an explanation because they are subject to fixed rule sets. I have better things to do with my time than to ponder on unravelling arcane formulas, which in every version were tweaked here and there to try to curve fit fixed ideas pointlessly, endlessly and to no avail. We shall have none of that, thank you very much.


Answer number four =

I am very far from being bored, but I prefer to be alone rather than in bad company.
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Old Nov 7, 2005, 9:14pm   #8
 
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VSATrader started this thread Hi Fugi;

Yes you are correct Fugi; but I did not see any answer that was relevant to Volume Spread Analysis from Socs. I wish that Socs would start a thread of his own and post a worthy topic for us all to examine, but he just flys around dumping on other peoples threads, and insulting them too. I take offence to this.

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I believe he was referring to the four questions you posed in post #35, athough I think you meant them rhetorically.

I rather hope that this particular episode of "Channelislanders" is nearing a close, amusing as it may be. Then the mods can clean it up a bit and allow the discussion about Volume Spread Analysis to continue as before.
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Old Nov 7, 2005, 9:16pm   #9
 
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Hi Fugi;

Yes you are correct Fugi; but I did not see any answer that was relevant to Volume Spread Analysis from Socs. I wish that Socs would start a thread of his own and post a worthy topic for us all to examine, but he just flys around dumping on other peoples threads, and insulting them too. I take offence to this.

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Old Nov 7, 2005, 9:23pm   #10
 
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4 Replys? four replys to what? The stick-bird?

They say that a true madman shows himself in his writings, people have told me that you are a Walter Mitty character, I know this to be true as Tom and I were sitting outside last the office last November and you came over with your cup of coffee and gave us a song and dance about being a jobber on the LSE in the early seventies. In the end I told you to get lost as I could see that you were talking non sense. Tom told me in all the time he had known you(a few years) that you had never mentioned this before.

You have many quality's Albert, but knowledge of the market is not one of them, else you would not have lost $75k in the S&P pit on 50 contracts. Is this true? can you confirm this?

Four replys? You really have me there.
Rubbish, I never told you any of this. You don't know me from Adam. You were present when Tom Williams and I had a conversation, in which he and I were talking and you were present, that's all. You had no part in our discussions at all.
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