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Old Feb 4, 2012, 1:49pm   #1
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I am genuinely in a state of confusion

Perhaps a member of the t2w staff or management could give the membership some indication of the objectives of t2w, and the type of content they'd ideally like to see posted.

This week I've seen first class trading related information deleted (again). So clearly, they dont want to see quality content.

I've seen male full frontal nudity (which lasted a lot longer than trading related content) deleted, so I assume they dont wish to publish gay porn.

I've seen quality lulz deleted.

I've seen legitimate concerns ignored and brushed under the carpet.

So what in hells name do they want ? What exacty can members post without being banned, or having threads deleted or closed ?
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Old Feb 4, 2012, 1:55pm   #2
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It scose of all the vendors moaning, no doubt. Sorry for my spelling.
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Old Feb 4, 2012, 2:24pm   #3
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Big titty Lesbo porn
Another good example of content no longer deamed acceptable. So far we've identified a bunch of stuff they dont want, but still no idea's about what they do want !

Even the porn things a bit debatable, and subject to a 180 degree U turn. Wasp was a good example of a member who was banned for posting porn, reinstated, and then banned again for the original offense (although some sceptics believe the second ban was triggered due to pool-lulz, and the kiddie porn, used as an excuse)

Sticking with the porn thing, some members seam to be able to post anything they like, without any reprimand, whilst others recieve bans for posting relatively innocent glamour type photo's that wouldnt be deemed out of place in womans realm (currently my favourite trading magazine)

There really needs to be some clarification on this point.

At a push I can understand the sites policy on the porn, but when trading related posts get deleted, thats confusing. I understand why they might want to see quality information deleted, but sometimes, they delete well written posts containing fairly mainstream ideas that certainly pose no danger to their revenue streams. I can only assume they are shooting the messenger in these instances rather than objecting to the message.

I thought I had this place worked out, but I am confused, there seams to be an element of randomness creeping in. My current theory, is a lot of this stuff is down to personal vindictiveness of mods and staff settling old scores, rather than a coordinated policy. I suppose time will tell.

However, I dont like being confused, and was seeking enlightenment
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Old Feb 4, 2012, 2:45pm   #4
 
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I think it's relatively simple Hare.

When any discussion about trading rejects the methods and doctrines that permeate the retail view of trading then it is perceived as a direct attack on vendors and the information gets deleted.

Lulz seems to fall into arbitrary value judgements based upon the posters past and perceived value to the site.

Apart from the weekly comp and some small dialogue with older members, the site offers no value above some online companionship. It is informationally limited but that may just be down to were my head is these days.

For example, I *think* I have some understanding of why and how you trade a random entry system. From an intellectual PoV it would be interesting to discuss this with you but frankly it would be pointless on this site without a huge amount of 'burn them, burn them' coming to the fore.

Shame.
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I think it's relatively simple Hare.

When any discussion about trading rejects the methods and doctrines that permeate the retail view of trading then it is perceived as a direct attack on vendors and the information gets deleted.

Lulz seems to fall into arbitrary value judgements based upon the posters past and perceived value to the site.

Apart from the weekly comp and some small dialogue with older members, the site offers no value above some online companionship. It is informationally limited but that may just be down to were my head is these days.

For example, I *think* I have some understanding of why and how you trade a random entry system. From an intellectual PoV it would be interesting to discuss this with you but frankly it would be pointless on this site without a huge amount of 'burn them, burn them' coming to the fore.

Shame.
There was once a time when I subscribed to the theory that there is a deliberate effort by the moderators in this forum to keep the general audience docile and ignorant. I no longer subscribe to that view...People are cretins, end of story.
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Old Feb 4, 2012, 3:24pm   #6
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There was once a time when I subscribed to the theory that there is a deliberate effort by the moderators in this forum to keep the general audience docile and ignorant. I no longer subscribe to that view...People are cretins, end of story.
I agree that from the perspective of site moderation, there's no deliberate policy, nor does there need to be. However, Its clear there's been a deliberate policy to dumb down the sites content making it accessible to a wider audience, and you cant blame them for doing so, and in commercial terms, its probably paid dividends.

I ask myself what type of content that I'd like to see if I where an advertiser at t2w. The content thats published as articles by vendors and partners comes pretty close to that ideal, but the user generated content on the open forums is problematic. That content is influenced by the sites moderation policy, and at the moment, that policy seams unclear.

I understand why they delete quality content, but mainstream content is being deleted too, and I can only conclude its a case of shooting the messenger. Whats also confusing, is why there's often a delay in terminating some of these threads, some of which contain precisely the sort of content you think they might be keen to promote (an example being Wall Street 1928)

Something isnt right.
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Old Feb 4, 2012, 3:52pm   #7
 
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Regarding Mr Riprock...

He could post & not get banned if he really wanted. I don't know the reasons for the recent ban, not sure if I missed more porn or not.

Dash could actually just post the trading info - but he likes a laugh to much - and he likes people to know he's the original Dash re-incarnated. That might be why he gets the ban. He could avoid that by being less like Dash I suppose.

I do keep in touch with Mr Riprock IRL - emails, a bit of Skype. He is a very nice fellow. He knows a lot about trading too. Sometimes my eyes glaze over when he says stuff about treasury trading... He mentioned the recent ban on Thursday or Friday in passing but it never crossed my mind to ask why. It's usually bcoz he's Dash...

Anyway - for all concerned, he is living on and is not going to hurt himself over the ban.
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