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the hare

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I am genuinely in a state of confusion

Perhaps a member of the t2w staff or management could give the membership some indication of the objectives of t2w, and the type of content they'd ideally like to see posted.

This week I've seen first class trading related information deleted (again). So clearly, they dont want to see quality content.

I've seen male full frontal nudity (which lasted a lot longer than trading related content) deleted, so I assume they dont wish to publish gay porn.

I've seen quality lulz deleted.

I've seen legitimate concerns ignored and brushed under the carpet.

So what in hells name do they want ? What exacty can members post without being banned, or having threads deleted or closed ?
 
It scose of all the vendors moaning, no doubt. Sorry for my spelling.
 
Big titty Lesbo porn

Another good example of content no longer deamed acceptable. So far we've identified a bunch of stuff they dont want, but still no idea's about what they do want !

Even the porn things a bit debatable, and subject to a 180 degree U turn. Wasp was a good example of a member who was banned for posting porn, reinstated, and then banned again for the original offense (although some sceptics believe the second ban was triggered due to pool-lulz, and the kiddie porn, used as an excuse)

Sticking with the porn thing, some members seam to be able to post anything they like, without any reprimand, whilst others recieve bans for posting relatively innocent glamour type photo's that wouldnt be deemed out of place in womans realm (currently my favourite trading magazine)

There really needs to be some clarification on this point.

At a push I can understand the sites policy on the porn, but when trading related posts get deleted, thats confusing. I understand why they might want to see quality information deleted, but sometimes, they delete well written posts containing fairly mainstream ideas that certainly pose no danger to their revenue streams. I can only assume they are shooting the messenger in these instances rather than objecting to the message.

I thought I had this place worked out, but I am confused, there seams to be an element of randomness creeping in. My current theory, is a lot of this stuff is down to personal vindictiveness of mods and staff settling old scores, rather than a coordinated policy. I suppose time will tell.

However, I dont like being confused, and was seeking enlightenment
 
I think it's relatively simple Hare.

When any discussion about trading rejects the methods and doctrines that permeate the retail view of trading then it is perceived as a direct attack on vendors and the information gets deleted.

Lulz seems to fall into arbitrary value judgements based upon the posters past and perceived value to the site.

Apart from the weekly comp and some small dialogue with older members, the site offers no value above some online companionship. It is informationally limited but that may just be down to were my head is these days.

For example, I *think* I have some understanding of why and how you trade a random entry system. From an intellectual PoV it would be interesting to discuss this with you but frankly it would be pointless on this site without a huge amount of 'burn them, burn them' coming to the fore.

Shame.
 
I think it's relatively simple Hare.

When any discussion about trading rejects the methods and doctrines that permeate the retail view of trading then it is perceived as a direct attack on vendors and the information gets deleted.

Lulz seems to fall into arbitrary value judgements based upon the posters past and perceived value to the site.

Apart from the weekly comp and some small dialogue with older members, the site offers no value above some online companionship. It is informationally limited but that may just be down to were my head is these days.

For example, I *think* I have some understanding of why and how you trade a random entry system. From an intellectual PoV it would be interesting to discuss this with you but frankly it would be pointless on this site without a huge amount of 'burn them, burn them' coming to the fore.

Shame.

There was once a time when I subscribed to the theory that there is a deliberate effort by the moderators in this forum to keep the general audience docile and ignorant. I no longer subscribe to that view...People are cretins, end of story.
 
There was once a time when I subscribed to the theory that there is a deliberate effort by the moderators in this forum to keep the general audience docile and ignorant. I no longer subscribe to that view...People are cretins, end of story.

I agree that from the perspective of site moderation, there's no deliberate policy, nor does there need to be. However, Its clear there's been a deliberate policy to dumb down the sites content making it accessible to a wider audience, and you cant blame them for doing so, and in commercial terms, its probably paid dividends.

I ask myself what type of content that I'd like to see if I where an advertiser at t2w. The content thats published as articles by vendors and partners comes pretty close to that ideal, but the user generated content on the open forums is problematic. That content is influenced by the sites moderation policy, and at the moment, that policy seams unclear.

I understand why they delete quality content, but mainstream content is being deleted too, and I can only conclude its a case of shooting the messenger. Whats also confusing, is why there's often a delay in terminating some of these threads, some of which contain precisely the sort of content you think they might be keen to promote (an example being Wall Street 1928)

Something isnt right.
 
Regarding Mr Riprock...

He could post & not get banned if he really wanted. I don't know the reasons for the recent ban, not sure if I missed more porn or not.

Dash could actually just post the trading info - but he likes a laugh to much - and he likes people to know he's the original Dash re-incarnated. That might be why he gets the ban. He could avoid that by being less like Dash I suppose.

I do keep in touch with Mr Riprock IRL - emails, a bit of Skype. He is a very nice fellow. He knows a lot about trading too. Sometimes my eyes glaze over when he says stuff about treasury trading... He mentioned the recent ban on Thursday or Friday in passing but it never crossed my mind to ask why. It's usually bcoz he's Dash...

Anyway - for all concerned, he is living on and is not going to hurt himself over the ban.
 
It's usually bcoz he's Dash...

Its probably a bit more complicated than that.

Some members get banned, and their posts remain, some get banned, and their posts are removed with almost surgical precision.

:LOL:

I take the point that it requires a lot less effort to ban someone, than it does for the banned to re register, but serial returners are hardly likely to be discouraged from returning.

To add to the confusion, we have the situation where people who have been banned, are often invited back, and provided with unprecidented levels of protection, to repeat the very same actions that earn then the original ban (WS1928 for example)

Is it any wonder that I am confused ?
 
Its probably a bit more complicated than that.

Some members get banned, and their posts remain, some get banned, and their posts are removed with almost surgical precision.

:LOL:

I take the point that it requires a lot less effort to ban someone, than it does for the banned to re register, but serial returners are hardly likely to be discouraged from returning.

To add to the confusion, we have the situation where people who have been banned, are often invited back, and provided with unprecidented levels of protection, to repeat the very same actions that earn then the original ban (WS1928 for example)

Is it any wonder that I am confused ?

Dash did pull his videos post-ban. This was unfortunate because there was one he'd narrated that I really wanted to spend time watching.

So - if it's the trade vids posts that got deleted, it might be because of the lack of a vid!
 
Scose's lists of things that seem to be acceptable on T2W given past actions:

5) Unethical vendors

OK that one I'm happy to back you up on eg Forex.com/Gain Capital as a rebate partner when they've been fined for ripping off clients.
 
Not always, Boyles. I'd say you get 1:200 good decisions to bad... but that's subjective of course.
 
OK that one I'm happy to back you up on eg Forex.com/Gain Capital as a rebate partner when they've been fined for ripping off clients.

So have Tesco, Asda in fact pretty much all supermarkets for price fixing and what about the banks and the PPI debacle ? So PB do you have any money in any of the UK banks that by your own standards are scamsters ? Do you do any shopping at any supermarket ?
 
So have Tesco, Asda in fact pretty much all supermarkets for price fixing and what about the banks and the PPI debacle ? So PB do you have any money in any of the UK banks that by your own standards are scamsters ? Do you do any shopping at any supermarket ?

It wasn't me that fined Gain or FXCM so it's nothing to do with my personal opinion. If you really want to get into the T2W partners scams argument then I can of course provide the relevant evidence of dishonesty/criminal offences etc. Of course it would be a one sided arguement as you'd just delete it all.
 
So have Tesco, Asda in fact pretty much all supermarkets for price fixing and what about the banks and the PPI debacle ? So PB do you have any money in any of the UK banks that by your own standards are scamsters ? Do you do any shopping at any supermarket ?

Since I'm new here I don't wish to tread on anybody's toes (particularly not those belonging to a staff member after the frankly extraordinary events of the past few days :LOL: ). But that comparison is so bad honestly one hardly knows where to begin with it. To avoid further embarrassment it really should be withdrawn.
 
Since I'm new here I don't wish to tread on anybody's toes (particularly not those belonging to a staff member after the frankly extraordinary events of the past few days :LOL: ). But that comparison is so bad honestly one hardly knows where to begin with it. To avoid further embarrassment it really should be withdrawn.

why is it? don't we have a thread somewhere titled all vendors are crooks!! i know not where the discussion went on that, but suffice to say that for a statement, in general terms, could be not far off the mark.

look, if barjon on hols and cv not around, then i think t333 not doing a bad job of holding the fort and upholding the guidelines. though lightening up a little on members that aren't knobheads, and go giving the ad spammers more grief may not be a bad idea.
 
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