Net Trap Variant live results from 17/05/10

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Old Aug 30, 2010, 8:49pm   #33
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Re: Net Trap Variant live results from 17/05/10

I forgot to say that the above results are trading off IG quick charts and no account taken of slippage. Also no stops moved at any time during the trade. In reality there is very little difference in the results between a 35 stop or a 40 stop (10 pips over the whole period), and 40 gives the price more room to breath so I will probably use that.

I stopped trading this for the last week but plan to start trading it again next week so thought I'd put in the leg work to see exactly what has been working in the current market. Whilst it would be ideal to be able to cut the trade when it's in profit and one feels the market is about to turn, the reality is that for some of us 6.30 to 8.30 am can be fairly hectic and the set & forget until 8.30 is preferable.

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Old Sep 6, 2010, 6:38pm   #34
 
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mark120169 started this thread Been out all day but will post an update later tonight. I have however been a busy boy and it will now contain all (apart from most recent) varaint manual backtest results for Jan to May 2010 trade matched to RH results with daily and monthly running totals.

And also a "combined 2010 to date" set for results where the June to Sept live data and jan to May backtest data are combined monthly to give Jan to Sept TD totals.

Thanks go to Rugby Trader and Peterf1966 for supplying me with all the RH updates from Jan to Mid May 2010.

And this was a **** load of work including double checking so i have no intention of repeating the work for 2009 in Forex Tester mainly becasue ;

A) VNT was not available to buy in 2009 so it's pointless and

B) RH has never released the NT entry figures and daily results for June to December 2009 as this awas beta test only so I have nothing to trade match against, so it would be mostly speculative. But.........I May have a go at trying a few top variants backtested for June / July / August 2009 to see what they might have got vs VNT's legendry results no one can confirm or was able to trade.

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p.s. You will be suprised how well VNT did Jan to May 2010 compared to now, something has deff changed from June 2010 onwards in how cable behaves during the VNT timeslot.

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Old Sep 6, 2010, 9:03pm   #35
 
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Re: Net Trap Variant live results from 17/05/10

mark120169 started this thread Ok.

RH Trade matched update time. One left handed trade this week when RH suddenly decided it was ok to trade a Bank Holiday despite always saying not too for previous ones on 2010.

So i've had to include any extra pips that would have given variants too although I don't think anyone traded them last monday?

Also big changes this week with the addition of the variants back test results and combined backtest / live trade results covering Jan to May 2010 and Jan to Sept TD.

Wont go to much into positions etc except as i'm sure lots of chatter and discussion will appear once peeps have studied and digested the results.

Instant trades were given special attention and I rechecked all May 2010 results with Forex Tester and picked up a few errors between 17th and 31st May so those have been adjusted. One thing to say on instant trades, and that is VNT no trigger days.

Between Jan and May 2010 there were 13 of these and 11 resulted in INT max loss -30 pips.

But between June and Sept TD there have only been 4 of these and none in June at all, which will help explain INT's overall results. But this can be discussed further with various inputs becasue there was obviously a reason RH put in his 2 pip + spread safety stop feature.

Overall last week VNT gained +36 pips and all higher limit variants matched it, but again lower limit variants did well especially 20 & 25 limit ones both gaining over 50 pips.

INT continued it's good run again being the biggest Banker with +85 pips. With the errors in late May corrected INT has also regained the total pips crown for 16 weeks with +486.5 pips but is not the overall 2010 leader to date, who is it?................. read and see.

Have fun studying everyone and let the discussions begin!

Mark

p.s. A thankyou always goes a long way
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Old Sep 6, 2010, 11:23pm   #36
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Mark,

Thank you very very much, this is pretty rocking stuff. There's a lot to think over here with these results.

Will hopefully contribute some thoughts later this week.

I've also been working on an advanced MM for HNT40 that produced 40% extra profit on the results going back to mid-May.

Will post this up later this week also.

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Old Sep 7, 2010, 6:51pm   #37
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Mark, many thanks for the extensive backtesting, great work.

Good to see that INT is still top dog when all results are scaled back to 2% :-)

INT is just about making my minimum average target of 100 pips per month, since the beginning of the year. So there's still work to be done, and I'm convinced that INT can be tweaked further to improve the pip count. More on this to follow...
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Old Sep 7, 2010, 8:15pm   #38
 
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Mark, many thanks for the extensive backtesting, great work.

Good to see that INT is still top dog when all results are scaled back to 2% :-)

INT is just about making my minimum average target of 100 pips per month, since the beginning of the year. So there's still work to be done, and I'm convinced that INT can be tweaked further to improve the pip count. More on this to follow...
What INT (and NT) needs is a secondary indicator daily to confirm trade direction, I am now looking backwards daily comparing other indicators (longer MA's etc) to see if a pattern can be found daily on losing and winning trades.

I.E. MA85 does it mostly agree (below it sell, above it buy) with NT MA40 daily? And if not does it mostly disagree on losing trades?

If you could find a secondary indicator that for 2010 always agreed with VNT MA40 on winning trades but disagreed 60-70% of the time on losing trades you could either,

A) Take the decision to only enter trades where the MA40 and secondary indicator agree, this should return a higher % of winning trades based on backtest data for 2010 by keeping you out of 60-70% of losing trades.

or

B) Be really brave and if the secondary indicator had a higher % rate of indicating winning trades during VNT time you could bet against NT direction if the secondary indicator showed a trade in the opposite direction.

It's very easy to plot different indicators on Forex tester and tab and scroll daily to see what the MA 60, MA85, MA100, EMA100, MA150 say for direction vs the MA40.

A pattern may apprear especially on losing trades where the MA40 and "other " MA disageed.

Any logic to this?

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Old Sep 8, 2010, 12:20pm   #39
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Wow - amazing results there Mark. Makes my spreadsheet look shabby. Well done.
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Old Sep 8, 2010, 5:38pm   #40
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This has finally convinced me that TNT is the way forward, in what form though?
I bet 5% each day, do I use 2 NTs, 3, 4?

Lots to think over.
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