Net Trap Variant live results from 17/05/10

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Old Jul 30, 2010, 10:36am   #9
 
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Re: Net Trap Variant live results from 17/05/10

mark120169 started this thread Some more approximate ( two within a few pips in July) figures for those who may want to think about things over the weekend for Monday morning before RH results arrive.

This is June (firm) and July (Firm apart from this week) results for VNT vs HNT40 vs LNT33S.


June 2010

VNT -80

HNT40 +114.3

LNT33S +88


July 2010

VNT +132

HNT40 +218

LNT33S +114


June and July 2010

VNT +52

HNT40 + 332.3

LNT33S +202


I suspect if I had the full 4/5/10 to 14/5/10 data to add to mine the picture of May would be the same as the two above because NT only acheived +37 in May.

More food for thought HNT40 acheived the magic 100 pips + in June and 200 pips + in July.

If anyone wants to help me complete the first two weeks of May with the back test data please PM me, I have VNT data. Need HNT40 & LNT33S B/T for the period 4/5/10 to 14/5/10.

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Old Jul 30, 2010, 12:14pm   #10
 
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Some more approximate ( two within a few pips in July)
I suspect if I had the full 4/5/10 to 14/5/10 data to add to mine the picture of May would be the same as the two above because NT only acheived +37 in May.

If anyone wants to help me complete the first two weeks of May with the back test data please PM me, I have VNT data. Need HNT40 & LNT33S B/T for the period 4/5/10 to 14/5/10.

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Ok as I don't have the RH updates before 10/5/10. I have checked the postings on the old RHFNT thread and worked the following out. Please can Pete or anyone elso who have the updates confirm these trades as correct.

3/5/10 No Trade Bank Holiday
4/510 No Trade
5/5/10 -30 pips
6/5/10 -30 pips
7/5/10 No Trade

If so then I only need backtesting of HNT40 and LNT33S for the following NT loss days to complete Mays picture. Wagtail? Help please!


5/5/10
6/5/10
10/5/10


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Old Jul 30, 2010, 2:32pm   #11
 
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Ok as I don't have the RH updates before 10/5/10. I have checked the postings on the old RHFNT thread and worked the following out. Please can Pete or anyone elso who have the updates confirm these trades as correct.

3/5/10 No Trade Bank Holiday
4/510 No Trade
5/5/10 -30 pips
6/5/10 -30 pips
7/5/10 No Trade

If so then I only need backtesting of HNT40 and LNT33S for the following NT loss days to complete Mays picture. Wagtail? Help please!


5/5/10
6/5/10
10/5/10


Thanks

Mark
The dogs ******** all that. Will e-mail that weeks official NT update to you later, don't have it on this system. Are you going to update the very colourful spreadsheet evey week?
Most frustrating this morning, keen to try HNT40, and it's a no trade.
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Old Jul 30, 2010, 3:07pm   #12
 
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The dogs ******** all that. Will e-mail that weeks official NT update to you later, don't have it on this system. Are you going to update the very colourful spreadsheet evey week?
Most frustrating this morning, keen to try HNT40, and it's a no trade.
I update it daily just after 8.30am. It is a living document as such.

Yes I will publish it weekly after RH results are in and results are trade matched for fair comparison. Also plan to add a second page to it with Monthly summary totals of all too at each months end.

Hopefully someone will backtest the missing three loss days for me so I can complete May 2010, otherwise I will leave May out of the Monthly totals and start from June & July.

But I will have the daily / weekly heads up on the progress and can give hints each / Friday / Weekend as I did today as I see the results change at the end of each day.

Of course any of you can download it and keep your own living personal document now if you wish. It only takes about 15 mins a day to update and is far easier on the day as it's all fresh in your memory.

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Old Jul 31, 2010, 9:00pm   #13
 
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I update it daily just after 8.30am. It is a living document as such.

Yes I will publish it weekly after RH results are in and results are trade matched for fair comparison. Also plan to add a second page to it with Monthly summary totals of all too at each months end.

Hopefully someone will backtest the missing three loss days for me so I can complete May 2010, otherwise I will leave May out of the Monthly totals and start from June & July.

But I will have the daily / weekly heads up on the progress and can give hints each / Friday / Weekend as I did today as I see the results change at the end of each day.

Of course any of you can download it and keep your own living personal document now if you wish. It only takes about 15 mins a day to update and is far easier on the day as it's all fresh in your memory.

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Ok sent you the official email from RH, as you said, but -30 on Friday, it was Thursday that was the no trade (no trigger), for -60 total.

Quick query, when doing TNT, do you get the same opening for HNT and NT, or do you sometimes get a discrepancy between the two of a pip or so?
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Old Jul 31, 2010, 9:53pm   #14
 
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Ok sent you the official email from RH, as you said, but -30 on Friday, it was Thursday that was the no trade (no trigger), for -60 total.

Quick query, when doing TNT, do you get the same opening for HNT and NT, or do you sometimes get a discrepancy between the two of a pip or so?
Depends on how fast the market is moving and which S/B provider. IG is not an issue because as you know you can set up two tickets ready to send or order at the same time and just click , click @ 6.30am. Also IG you can enter to order very close 3-4 pips of official NT entry price.

ETX was next best, you can't have two order tickets but you can have one order and one live so I would set up the order ticket as one half of NT then set up a live ticket as other side of TNT. But ETX did have more issues with setting to NT entry price as it won't except orders less than 5-6 pips away for live price so can be tricky.

WorldwideSpreads is difficult for TNT as I have not found any way of running two tickets, you can onl;y do one order or one live at a time and the order ticket has a 90 second timer on it then it cancels itself so you you can only start to set it up @ 6.29am.

IG is best for TNT, just the slippage issue which I have not yet seen elsewhere. but you can always use a mix of ETX / other S/B for each side of TNT one for each and tab between both @ 6.30 am.

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Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere (I'm sure it has), but have been going over your results Mark (nothing like staking 5 quid a pip to concentrate yer mind)and it looks like the factor that has the most impact is increasing the SL, whereas reducing the limit can have the opposite effect. Seems odd that RH wouldn't have picked up on the same, or is it due to different market conditions that increasing the SL is working so well?
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Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere (I'm sure it has), but have been going over your results Mark (nothing like staking 5 quid a pip to concentrate yer mind)and it looks like the factor that has the most impact is increasing the SL, whereas reducing the limit can have the opposite effect. Seems odd that RH wouldn't have picked up on the same, or is it due to different market conditions that increasing the SL is working so well?
Yes true. small SL has always been an issue on cable breakout systems based on the london open which I have read actually starts @ 6am.

Lots of whipsaws happening which take out stops happily. But also VNT was probably backtested for 2008 and 2009, whith Q3 , Q4 2009 showing a good run of BT / paper trades / live testers results results for RH before it was published.

It was not out for sale until Dec 2009, hence all the "great" 2009 results where never traded by customers. Check out Petes new Historic results thread to see almost a 400 pip difference detween June 2009 results and June 2010.

2010 is a much, much more volitile market for Cable, Euro and FTSE which all effect the direct VNT trades take.

But you are also right that the lower limit is not so good without at least the VNT stop, making it poor RR ratio, or a bigger stop. But in the current market conditions it's the combination of both that is banking the pips becasue the large 30 pips of more whips are still very regular (and stopping VNT out to often) but also where VNT does get it right the market often runs out of steam between 26 and 29 pips before reversing. Hence NT30/30 is no where near as good results as HNT40, gets stopped out lots more and banks a lot less.

At some point in the future VNT or NT40 , NT33S will take the lead over smaller target variants, but the market will need to be more predicable with less large whipsaws before this will happen, and with the UK , USA and Euro all struggling to paste over their messed up economies I think the 2009 period of NT when it was all under wraps to the markets is a long way off yet.

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