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Old Jul 12, 2005, 12:06am   #1
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Why Canít Johnny and Jane Make Money in the Markets?

We've just published a new T2W article called "Why Canít Johnny and Jane Make Money in the Markets?" by Jake Bernstein.

Quick Summary: A discussion of some of the reasons traders fail and what can be done to avoid them.

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Old Jul 12, 2005, 12:06am   #2
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In this article, highly regarded author Jake Bernstein offers up some of his insight as to what leads traders in to trouble and how they can avoid going down the wrong road.
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Old Jul 12, 2005, 12:38am   #3
 
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Very good advice ~ very wise.
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Old Jul 12, 2005, 7:46am   #4
 
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The only thing that didn't make sense to me was his statement about "Diversification of trading methods, markets and time frame is the best overall approach." His description of how to do this will probably overwhelm Jane and Johhny. I know it overwhelmed JO!
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Old Jul 12, 2005, 8:20am   #5
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I know it overwhelmed JO!
Timsk too!
It's also contrary to the advice that most other trader experts / gurus usually dispense, which is to get to know, think, live and breathe one market in one timeframe before attempting to introduce another. Although the logic behind Jake's view is very sound, to achieve this level of diversification strikes me as being a task as monumental as climbing Everest on a sunny Sunday afternoon. There again, he also advises a contrarian approach and not doing what everyone else is doing . . .
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Old Jul 12, 2005, 8:30am   #6
 
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An opportunity to be contrarian:

JB says that Johnny and Jane are victims of common thinking. Bull. You can do some very simple and old and common things in the markets and make money, plenty of it. You just have to execute well and control your behaviour well. IMO, many people are victims of the contrarianism that he advocates and as a result tend to take countertrend trades, scale in, follow hunches and do other contrarian things that lose money (being contrarians to the current trend).

Many other bits are good (common) sense.

The diversification section seems like an attempt to sell his GSS system. Oh great. Just what the beginner needs - a JB system.

"Come back to me now and then to see if you can learn anything new from me since I continue to grow and evolve as a trader." OK so here we have it. Yes this is just another Jake Bernstein sales pitch. Or is it only that I have an overactive spam detector? LOL. Your choice.
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Old Jul 12, 2005, 10:14am   #7
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good article and his views on diversity presuppose you have some size to trade in which case it's good advice.
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Old Jul 12, 2005, 10:40am   #8
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Excellent-he seems to know his onions...
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Old Jul 12, 2005, 11:05am   #9
 
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well written article, with a decent sense of humour..

"Fads come and go in the markets just as they do in real life. I still have a Nehru jacket"

I particularly liked that quote,

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Old Jul 12, 2005, 11:20am   #10
 
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poor old johnny and jane - i'd better explore that deed poll business

one the most succesful guys i know has traded a single equity instrument (and only that) in all its different guises over the last 30 years - but then he's called fred.

good trading

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Old Jul 12, 2005, 11:25am   #11
 
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im trying to work out where i have seen Jake's photo before..

im thinking My Two Dad's, but i cant be sure....
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Old Jul 12, 2005, 11:44am   #12
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"I still have a Nehru jacket"

"I particularly liked that quote,"

I didn't ..I've only just bought one
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Old Jul 12, 2005, 1:15pm   #13
 
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Hello Jake - I'm sure you will be reading this comment thread.
An excellent article which carries the wisdom of time and understanding from the perspective of a very experienced trader.
It's only the third article in K Lab I've ever given 10 out of 10 for.
Well worth reading a second time to pick up on everything missed out on first time around.
I particularly liked para 3 and later, those vital words, "be humble..."
As for a "decent sense of humour", I saw Jake Bernstein speak at a seminar I spoke at myself last year and he was very funny, dry and ironic and always on the ball.
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Old Jul 12, 2005, 2:13pm   #14
 
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good article and his views on diversity presuppose you have some size to trade in which case it's good advice.
It also presupposes you got at least one instrument figured out and are ready and able to hold two or more of them in your brain at one time. Just thinking about that makes me want to find a cool muddy spot so I can go lie down. LOL
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I thot it said Johnny and Jake..........

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