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Old Mar 16, 2008, 10:11am   #1
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Realistically in crude what sort of size do you reckon you could get away with buying or selling all at one price. I dont mean the largest size you've seen go through i mean more like realistically what size can you get away with doing.
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Old Mar 16, 2008, 1:52pm   #2
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Realistically in crude what sort of size do you reckon you could get away with buying or selling all at one price. I dont mean the largest size you've seen go through i mean more like realistically what size can you get away with doing.
Nymex has a position limit of 20,000 contracts in any one/all months. I think you should be able to do 500 to 1,000 limit order with no problem.

Not my problem, I just do one contract and I add another one later if price goes my way. So far I had no problems getting a fill

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Old Mar 26, 2008, 10:35am   #3
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Some enormous orders go through the NYMEX every once in a while in the order of thousands of contracts, probably from oil companies or physical hedgers of one sort or another.

The volume and open interest on NYMEX crude is phenomenal, I don't think you'll have too many problems getting a fill.
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Old Mar 26, 2008, 11:20am   #4
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I have often done 100lot clips in nymex crude in the afternoon without more than 1tick slip.
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Old Mar 26, 2008, 3:34pm   #5
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i dont trade energies at the mo' but i know some heavy weights who work for vitoil in geneva. their view is that the order book consists of mostly iceberg orders so you may only see a few 10's in the book but you have no idea what is sitting behind that - what the real liquidity is.
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Old Mar 26, 2008, 4:11pm   #6
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I also know a guy who does algorithmic arbitrage in the oil markets, regularly doing 5% of the daily volume. He doesnt float any bids or offers, but if you posted some size, or swept a few prices to push the outright out of line against the calendars or the delivery curve, he would take all you could eat, literally. I've watched him do a few thousand in the space of half an hour.
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[QUOTE=Arbitrageur;410257] He doesnt float any bids or offers,

what do you mean by the above ?
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He doesnt float any bids or offers,

what do you mean by the above ?
I mean they are not generally market makers, but market takers
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