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This is a discussion on Silver! within the Commodities forums, part of the Trading Choices category; Originally Posted by morpheustrading Good insight here, and it all seems quite sound to me. When I was a new ...

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Old Sep 6, 2012, 11:30am   #193
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Good insight here, and it all seems quite sound to me.

When I was a new trader back in the last 1990′s, I was primarily a sector trader who focused on trading individual stocks within the sector that was showing the most relative strength. During this time, I consistently made the mistake of buying the sole stock in the group that had not rallied as much as the other stocks in the group (the weakest one). My thinking was that since it is lagging behind the other stocks in the group, is a good play because it must “catch up” to the rest of the stocks in the sector.

However, what I eventually learned was that laggards are laggards for a reason…Institutional traders such as banks, mutual funds, hedge funds are not buying – plain and simple. The actual reason why a particular stock is not being bought as much is another stock within the same industry sector is irrelevant. The point is simply that the stock or ETF is a laggard. I will close by sharing an actual true story the best relates this example…

I remember one day about 13 years ago, when I was a daytrader, I immediately noticed relative strength in the pharmaceutical sector ($DRG) shortly after the market opened. Most of the individual stocks in the industry sector were already up 2 or 3% on the day within the first 30 min. of trading, so my thought was that I would try to find the one stock that had not yet rallied, the one bucking the trend, and I did. It was Schering-Plough (SGP), which was only up 0.1% (basically flat) at the same time the other stocks in the same sector were already up several percent.

Buying SGP at that time, I felt like a genius who would end up making a lot of money by the end of the day because I had spotted the one stock that nobody was buying it. But as you may be able to guess, the outcome of the story was not at all what I had anticipated. By the closing bell, those other stocks that were originally up 2% or 3% on the open, which I was afraid to buy, were now showing large gains of 5% or more on the day. However, my “genius” SGP play was exactly within a few pennies of where I bought it hours earlier. Why? Because it was a laggard within the sector.

In summary, just remember that cheap stocks are cheap stocks for a reason, and the reason they are cheap is irrelevant. The core of our swing trading strategy is to buy HIGH and sell HIGHER, rather than to buy LOW and hope to sell HIGH if the cheap stocks and ETFs catch up.

With time, I eventually figured out a much more profitable strategy was to buy strength. Still, I guess it really depends on what time frame a trader is, and more importantly, if consistent rules are applied to one's strategy.

For us, making sure intermediate and longer-term trends confirm has always been important; hence the post. But I can also see how one could just easily make the argument that silver will become closer to parity with gold.

Different opinions are what moves markets. :-)

Good trading to you,

Deron
I agree totally with your argument as I follow Stan Weinstein's method and have a very long thread on here: http://www.trade2win.com/boards/tech...-analysis.html which I believe is very similar to what you do from reading your posts over the last month or so. Except that yours is a shorter term swing trading method. But we seem to have been picking similar things none the less recently.

My other argument with Silver vs leveraged gold is that if gold makes it back to retest the highs, then the leveraged will have moved roughly 26% or so. So to get the same return in silver it needs to reach $40 which is roughly your 61.8% fib level and below the second volume resistance high.

Attached is the weekly and the daily line charts of the ratio which shows that the ratio is back above a flattening 200 day MA in favour of silver:



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Old Sep 7, 2012, 1:39am   #194
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My feeling is Silver has topped out here.
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Old Sep 11, 2012, 2:14am   #195
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SILVER Is Going To $100 Legendary asset manager Eric Sprott said this will be the "decade of SILVER" during which SILVER will hit $100.
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Old Sep 12, 2012, 10:43am   #196
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Lulz. This liquidation was coming. It should come as no surprise.

Huge swings up and down in no time at all.......ahh yes, the good times are back in Silver.

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SILVER Is Going To $100 Legendary asset manager Eric Sprott said this will be the "decade of SILVER" during which SILVER will hit $100.
SGTBull(s_h_i_t)07 subscriber right here

Did you see that massive paper manipulation just now by JP Morgan? The $1.50 sell-off? Curse them. This up move has been all physical demand!

If you are not actually a subscriber, I apologize. I know his minions visit this thread though.

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Old Sep 14, 2012, 7:00pm   #198
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I closed out half my position in silver today to take some profits as it has had a 23.44% move since my Aug 14th entry. So I was pleased with that as it's close enough to my initial $35 target where the major volume resistance is - see attached P&F chart. And I'm going to let the other half ride for a longer time to see if it can reach my next target of $40.



Zeal have also updated their Silver Bull Seasonal charts which I've found useful over the last five years or so. You can see their article here: Silver Bull Seasonals 2 and I've attached the charts from it below.



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Old Sep 17, 2012, 1:16am   #199
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Silver tracked gold higher and held near its strongest since March. Platinum was near multi-month highs even after Anglo American Platinum said it will resume work this week at its strike-hit Rustenburg operations.
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Just when we thought silver was taking off. It's at the USD33 level. Still great performance the past two months.

Physical silver is the way to go, but I'm not totally against speculative assets related to silver. I used to own SLV, and have a few stocks for silver mines.
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